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A short video to identify people are real? What do you think?

A short video to identify people are real? What do you think?

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A short video to identify people are real? What do you think?

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Hello Crowdholders!

Our task today is about how here at CH we can "know your users" which we will call KYU. Lets ignore legality in this, but focus on how we can showcase all of you as "real people, with real knowledge."

The idea is simple:

Under your user profile we would make a feature to allow you to upload/link a video that will be displayed in your profile, which people can see or not see (depending what you want to lock in your profiles settings)

The video can be about your bio, and what you're interested in or it can be as simple as saying, "hello crowdholders" being only a few seconds. This would unlock you to be able to participate in additional future features.

Or

In case people who do not want to do it ( to stay more anonymous), we could instead give you credibility points shown to the project owners which could have only additional perks of getting more rewards who participate in our KYU.

So why? For clients who pay for tasks, it assures them crowdholding users are "real people, with real knowledge." Issues resulting in bounty's from other sites is the problem of fake accounts. And the thought is, projects will appreciate working with all of you because you have identified as a real person.

End of the year we plan to build our gamification system, so this could be an important spec after we hear your thoughts. So here are our questions:

- Would you create a fast video saying hello about yourself?
- What's your thoughts of this KYU system?
- Where do you see problems? Would people be reluctant to do it and it could hinder our user retention?

We look forward to your feedback!





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I myself would never record such video, even though it might have given me a confidence as a client to have users do that.

Also, as someone else mentioned already I think it's essential to allow both verified and not verified users to engage with tasks and companies. Offer some advantage to verified users, sure, but don't prevent not verified users from getting the full experience.


When it comes to creating the element of trust, I'd consider using 3rd party services: For example, have users sign some super-short social contract with Crowdholding via DocuSign.com which has a strength of an actual contract and takes user's IP address while signing (wouldn't be my choice #1 but hey, could work...) . Or consider integrating services such as https://www.digitalid.com/ which specialise on the verification of online identity - disclaimer: I don't know https://www.digitalid.com/ - I just read about it somewhere a few weeks back and there will def. be more services like this.

Good luck!

2 weeks ago

- Would you create a fast video saying hello about yourself?
yes i would, its seems to be a very good idea.
- What's your thoughts of this KYU system?
not sure, can work.

1 month ago

- Would you create a fast video saying hello about yourself?
Yes, but if its not uploaded to my profile (Only for your record)
- What's your thoughts of this KYU system?
Its almost same as KYC, and I don't think that it will change much.
- Where do you see problems? Would people be reluctant to do it and it could hinder our user retention?
I think that the problem can be solved if you somehow check the IP and serial number of PC of each user when they login. That will surely help against multi-accounting. And adding 2fa will be great also.

1 month ago

Akash Mondal

foronlinejob1985@gmail.com

Despite what everyone saying, I think it's a great idea. Because in this way our advertisers will see real numbers of peoples we have in CH.
But as lots of other members are saying, you should increase the token prize to honour the members who activate this new feature.
Thanks.

1 month ago

TheCrypto .Tips

I do both things that measure our entire World => UX & TA

- Not sure, I think it is a bit too much to ask for from your users..
- KYU in general is a great idea, but it must be super simple.
- My guess is reluctant

1 month ago

I think the users that goes through KYU should get better rewards, something like +10% more tokens, but the users that don't, should not be excluded from the system. If I had a project, I would love to get to know the people I get feedback from and their experience.

1 month ago

i don like video identification.maybe other ways such as email or code verification be better.

1 month ago

Richard Buck

Genius level I.Q.. I see things most people don't.

I have no problem with it. I have had 11 in last 14 months and have problems standing or sitting or stating still. Hard for me to do film other than still frame.

1 month ago

Callum Roxburgh

I'm an Entrepreneur who writes about, invests in and advises ICO's and startups.

Sure, I would participate. But it sounds more like a marketing idea than a KYC idea.

1 month ago

Romaldos Kolotushin

Good Karma Bounty

I think video verification can help us with fraud

1 month ago

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1 month ago

camera program should be from you and only takes about 6/S of the video recording like many picture's taking apps.

1 month ago

Hector Ortiz Lopez

Im a goood listener

The only thing that i genuenily like about this its the credibilty points.
-Instead of real profile pictures, you process them into a toonification.

1 month ago

I like the idea if you have nothing to hide then why not, you are promoting yourself as honest and reliable.

1 month ago

The idea is bad .. few people agree on this. problem with keeping data private

1 month ago

the idea is really great and it will reduce the users multiple accounts and also it will improve transparency and decency in the crypto world

1 month ago

I understand that there is always a problem with wanting to do kyc.

But personally, to do this, I may not want to do it at all. Submitting a picture of a selfie with your photo ID is kind of bothersome by itself already. Having to do a video to say hello or to introduce about ourselves could be more of a hassle than to convince me to use a platform. Especially more so if these users are just intending to collect random drips from airdrops.

Not too sure of of the "credibility points" scoring system would work, but I think it may be a good implementation for the time being. If the team can give us a breakdown of the mechanisms of how this whole credibility points system work, that would be great. I still stand by the idea that having a moderation team who looks at the value of a user's contribution to projects over time to verify a user's credibility.

1 month ago

i'm sometimes can't pass the KYC with photo, because i have very simple camera. so what qaulity will be my videos? i mean, it must be very difficult for some people to make any videos for KYU

1 month ago

Your idea is great but in cryptoworld users wants to be anonymous system need this

1 month ago

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1 month ago

how to use ?

1 month ago

Ethan Clime

CEO of Crowdholding.com

read a task and answer to the best of your ability. If users like your comment they upvote you and you get a crypto reward.

1 month ago

this is a good idea, but to be honest I'm not a gentlemen in front of the camera, maybe there are others who are like me. Haha

1 month ago

This is really difficult for people who are doing tasks for free airdrops , because in my point of view ,they would like to stay anonymous , it's purely my opinion

1 month ago

for me, just 2fa or phone number is good

1 month ago

Hm. I get that you're trying to find a solution to big problem but.....

- Would you create a fast video saying hello about yourself?
Nope.

- What's your thoughts of this KYU system?
I belive there are better systems. which do not require anyone doing vidoes about themselves.

- Where do you see problems? Would people be reluctant to do it and it could hinder our user retention?
Yes. I for instance would not do such a video. Even if its going to sit on some server somewhere and noboby will probably play it in years.

I am not sure why but the mere fact that its a video is a problem.

1 month ago

Amir Shahzad

me.aamir1@gmail.com

I support this type of idea, its give lot of confidence to clients

1 month ago

I think that there exist better methods as verification systems. I am thinking basically in people who haven't any time or could be problems with their cam. For example: the mobile camera of my sister's smartphone doesn't work. So, she would have to take the video with another camera and then upload it. It seems more complicated than current methods like Google-Authenticator or other similar.

1 month ago

Personally I wouldn’t feel comfortable with video as being a verification method. I would personally prefer other forms of identification/ verification like phone verification and 2FA.

I feel like if the reward would be a lot greater than it is now, then adding additional verification wouldn’t make a lot more sense as it would require a higher level of security to verify authenticity of the user.

1 month ago

Well, I might consider this option but only if I get to do it once and can keep this video for every project. Initially people where also against picture but eventually they did it. So, I believe this might work if we give it sometime. Only problem is many don't regularly say hello and tell about themselves on camera. So if they get used to it there will be no problem.

1 month ago

Андрей Тимофеев

Работаю с баунти и айрдропами, продвигаю ICO в социальных сетях.

Yes, I would create a fast video.

1 month ago

I think just 2fa or phone number is good

1 month ago

if I want to post

1 month ago

well, I am not sure if I want to post my video, there are other options to see if the person is real or not. I don't think that people will be willing to post either.
- Mobile phone registration
- 2FA

1 month ago

The idea is great, even though I think that it will not solve the problem of fake accounts, but it is surely a step forward. I mean the advantage would be that this platform has more credibility for projects and as a result the pay would go up. But with a higher incentive people will just have their friends make a short video.

My suggest would be to make a phone call and after that you are a verified user. Comments of verified users would then have more weight. Also for this option there are no privacy concerns.

1 month ago

Well... There is no harm in giving people the choice to do it. It might even become a fun part of the platform, or allow this to grow to some sort of interactive social media through videos.

Personally, if it becomes available I will not be one of the first to post a video. And when I do, it will most likely be a very short video (1-2 seconds). I am not comfortable sharing a lot of personal information on a platform with my face. It is too much of a privacy concern at this point in time.

A more successful way to implement this is allowing people to reply to comments with videos. They are most likely to do it this way, rather than a direct way of identification. That way, you definitely know they're real people, and it's not presented as a form of KYC, which turns a lot of people off.

1 month ago

#Would you create a fast video saying hello about yourself?
Yes, I would create a fast video. I personally think its a good idea. I think that it would improve community knowing each other more properly.
#What's your thoughts of this KYU system?
The KYU system allows real people to be a member of this site and will prevent fake accounts and bots from the site.
#Where do you see problems? Would people be reluctant to do it and it could hinder our user retention?
May be there will be privacy issue and can be video used in any other means to defame it.yes people might be reluctant to do it.

1 month ago

I don't like the idea of creating a video of myself.
What does this video say about the knowledge of a person?
I think the users contribution to crowdholding tells you way more about 'being real'.
Multiple users is a problem if the tasks are simple and can be automated easily like many bounties and airdrops out there. That's not the case here.
I also think being somehow anomynous is related to crypto and feels comfy for most people.
Holding userdata does also mean that you have to take the proper legal measurements.

1 month ago

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1 month ago

1- Better to keep it open (up to user but if he do to reward him) as privacy is a right for any one
2- I prefer SMS or 2fa system
3 -Now days privacy in some cases is a must

1 month ago

there are tools around using the video method for KYC, I think it is more convenient than KYU

1 month ago

Ahmad Fz

Crypto Addicted

Know your Users is not different with KYC. I think it is not comfortable for me if the reward is to low. The ICO hosts should guarantee to verified users with KYU to give high rewards. if the reward is under 1000 USD, I think KYU will not be valuable.

1 month ago

- Would you create a fast video saying hello about yourself?
No, i like my privacy
- What's your thoughts of this KYU system?
I dont like it, is better get a SMS or 2fa system
- Where do you see problems? Would people be reluctant to do it and it could hinder our user retention?
For my, the most privacy i have, the better, making a video or need to show me for do something isnt a valid way

1 month ago

i do not recommend this method or any method for KYC for only one reason that is the whole cryptocurrency industry based on anonymous peer to peer payment system , any site can protect their customer by sms or 2fa security measures and no need to know the personality of customers , this what characterize crytocurrency from fiat currency and make it always attractive and beautiful

1 month ago

No, I would not make a video.
I least like this option.
I would prefer to tie the phone.

I think that for a resource like Crowdholding, the KYU procedure, based on identity verification, does not really matter. After all, the quality of the user's activity is important.

As for other people, it seems to me that they too will be reluctant to pass.
Anyway it should not be the only way to go through KYC.

1 month ago

Fred Blauer

Open for business

Yes, I would create a fast video. I personally think its a good idea. I think that it would improve community engagement. If people want to remain anonymous, they still, have the option, but there should be an incentive to do it.

Just wondering, what software should we use for this?

1 month ago

First of all I want to be trusted from both side. KYC or KYU is not the best solution for multiple accounts. Anyone can take a small video for pretended to be a second person. Moreover I do not want to have my video on public.
If you need to show the project we are real they need to take time check everyone one by one. In addition a 3 party encrypted KYC can be a good solution on blockchain technology. I want to be anonymous as much as i can to the public. But a blockchain based KYC can be a good solution. I must have a chose which projects I will share my identity details. This is ctypto world if they do not trust us I do not trust them too.

1 month ago

Ethan Clime

CEO of Crowdholding.com

Duly noted, good to hear the feedback. Just trying to find a solution than going with the collection of private information, which I do not want to do at all. So this is what triggered the idea. Ok, I will keep this in my back of my head, and fill free to post something if any of you have ideas or know of a better solution. Thanks Sertan, as your thoughts is the top voter! :)

1 month ago

Dear Ethan; Thank you for your kind words. KYC is needed to be very well discussed between both parties. Projects needs real supporters and Bounty hunters needs good project to support for profits. For crowdholding it is a must to find real supporter for the projects. So we can all do one single KYC for crowdholding which will be anonymous to the third parties.

1 month ago

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* The idea of ​​making a video about myself doesn't sound bad to me. Yes, I can. only this video should be prevented from getting into the hands of other people. It is important that the security settings are configured correctly.
* The KYU system allows real people to be a member of the site. This will prevent fake accounts from entering the site.
* The most important problem here is the possibility of people stealing information. the other problem is that people don't want to publish their real profiles. security settings must be configured correctly. The information that the user does not want to show should be hidden. Users can choose to use it if they are done.

1 month ago

Elric Drost

Creative session specialist, likes to go out of the box.. and beyond

- Would you create a fast video saying hello about yourself?
I would make one, but i would not put it on my profile.

- What's your thoughts of this KYU system?
I'm not sure it will add anything. I'm not sure about the user retention. I would do it, but i'm a big user and got to know the company a bit. If i was new, i would be holding back on it for sure.

- Where do you see problems? Would people be reluctant to do it and it could hinder our user retention?
It will probably hinder user retention a bit, but i can ask my whole family and freinds to say hi on a video and make a lot of accounts. Just a one time little more work. I don't think it will help completely, but it will help a bit.

1 month ago