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It's considered normal. You have a business idea, now you must pay big bucks and file a patent to protect your idea. In the startup world where funds go to making the idea become a reality, the costs associated with patents usually are left on hold. You wait and cross your fingers that no one will file a patent of your product while you keep building it. 

Now lets say, someone just created the patent (a big company for example) after your idea was realized and now they reached out to you and plan to take you to court. Under law, if you can prove you came up with the product/idea before anything was filed, you win the case. But the issue is, the costs associated with hiring lawyers is just too expensive. But what if blockchain could fix this issue where you never needed a lawyer to show up to court?

Give us a solution for which CH could actually consider projects and ideas as recorded evidence for such a scenario. Could tools be built such as script reading smart contracts? What information would be needed in order for projects on our app to protect themselves from litigation?

Decentralized businesses in the future has the potential to disrupt those who stay centralized. This means CH needs to prepare and support the industry from future attacks that are inevitable from businesses too slow to change their business models.

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7 months ago

If you create a patent and tag it with blockchain, then other person still can say that the original idea is not yours. The other person can say that they have not put up the idea with the blockchain because they were going to add some features in this or they were about to modify/rectify the idea. Other person also can make a similar product after getting an idea form your original idea. And again same thing will happen, lawsuit. So, according to me the best thing is, don't leak your idea.

8 months ago

The idea of ​​the project is good, but at the moment it will have a lot of difficulties with the application. There is a judicial practice, the courts can rely on their decisions on it. But lawyers are still needed, there is a demand for them. And judicial practice does not help. Sorry for my English.

8 months ago

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8 months ago

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8 months ago

This is a very specific issue, because each new idea is built on borrowing and / or a new reading of the old one. To prove borrowing, expertise is needed. Most likely the world will move along the path of open data.
Alternatively, a blocker will simplify the receipt of a patent through a form that will describe a new idea through a set of standard criteria.
This of course will simplify many patent issues

8 months ago

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8 months ago

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8 months ago

The solution is the creation of full-fledged smart contracts on the Ethereum platform, which has more diverse functionality. The special programming language Solidity allows you to fix the conditions for the model 'if ... - then ...', which makes such contracts quite universal and convenient for the regulation of a wide range of commercial relations. Execution of smart contracts is carried out by a computer program - that is, participation of parties and intermediaries in this process is not required. Correctly set parameters in the program level the risk of unfair behavior of the parties in performance. All entries about the transactions made within the framework of the smart contract are stored in the block of registry: they can not be faked or changed. Protection provides methods of cryptography, the principle of decentralization ensures the storage of records in such a way that any change is visible to all participants of the system. In addition, clearly defined conditions for smart contracts can no longer be interpreted in two ways, because they are written in a formal programming language. In this case, smart contracts will allow to get rid of intermediaries in the form of banks, lawyers, notaries, etc., because they independently verify the terms of the transaction and confirm it.

8 months ago

Выход – это создание полноценных смарт-контрактов на платформе Ethereum, которая имеет более разнообразный функционал. Специальный язык программирования Solidity позволяет закреплять условия по модели «если... – то...», что делает такие контракты достаточно универсальными и удобными для регулирования широкого круга коммерческих отношений. Исполнение смарт-контрактов осуществляется компьютерной программой – т. е. участие сторон и посредников в этом процессе не требуется. Правильно заданные параметры в программе нивелируют риск недобросовестного поведения сторон при исполнении.
Все записи о совершенных транзакциях в рамках смарт-контракта хранятся в реестре блокчейна: их нельзя подделать или изменить. Защита обеспечивает методами криптографии, принцип децентрализации обеспечивает хранение записей таким образом, что любое изменение видно всем участникам системы. К тому же четко определенные условия смарт-контрактов уже не могут толковаться двояко, потому что записаны на формальном языке программирования. В этом случае смарт-контракты позволят избавиться от посредников в виде банков, юристов, нотариусов и т. д., поскольку они самостоятельно проверяют условия сделки и подтверждают ее.

8 months ago

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8 months ago

Have to wait for about 10years.although there will be risks of idea theft

8 months ago

nice

8 months ago

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8 months ago

great

8 months ago

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8 months ago

That is also my worry in the digital age and money today. Ideas are many, but each person will have a different idea. I think the idea of ​​protecting your own copyright will have to be registered with state agencies, for instance. But that is very time consuming. I think there should be a ethereum blockchan technology that stores all the data

8 months ago

You can make a program or app for patent project or for a start up idea/ small company. Where people can store their data while they are still working on the project. Maybe day by day storing, where no one can amend or change the info that was stored but can add details. No one can duplicate as well.

8 months ago

patents are created to protect the product from plagiarism. If the idea is patented and stolen, then you can safely sue the thief.

8 months ago

good idea patents, the most important thing to keep the data safe

8 months ago

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8 months ago

Four basic perspectives that are useful in evaluating and prioritizing opportunities for new products in existing product categories are:

Competitive strategy

The company's competitive strategy is a fundamental market and product approach with respect to competitors. This strategy is used to select opportunities. In general, companies discussing at the management level is a strategic competency and helps in competing. Some possible strategies to implement:

* Roadshows to various countries

* Leadership based on technology.

* Leadership-based cost efficiency.

* Customer focus.

Give Shading Coins a Difference to Another Coin, by making features that have not been in another coin. This makes the public interest in crypto.



In the field of development

* As an anonymous payment tool

 * Fast transaction without fee fee

Mission statement, including:

Brief product descriptions, including key product benefits to customers but avoiding the use of specific product concepts. Key business goals, including time, cost and quality. Target markets for products, identifying key markets and second markets to consider in development. Assumptions and limitations , to guide the development effort.Stakeholders, to ensure that many development issues are intended to explicitly register all stakeholders of the product. The list of stakeholders starts from the end user and the external customer making the decisions about the product. The list of stakeholders provides a shadow for the team to consider the needs of each customer.

Assumptions and limitations

Assumptions and constraints are required for the technical development of the product to be more targeted. Issues to consider in assuming and limiting:

* Manufacturing, taking into account the capabilities, capacities, and limitations of manufacturing operations.

*Service. Customer service and service revenues are critical to the success of the company, so companies need to state strategic objectives for service quality levels.

* Determination of staff and other preliminary project planning activities

I hope some of my idea can help Coin for more better in the future. Thank you.

8 months ago

Nice project continues to grow this community

8 months ago

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8 months ago

patents are created, to protect a product that we create. but indeed sometimes a lot of people often use our name. almost in all parts of the world, if a success must be their name or business will be used by others. if the results or their products are good, it's no problem. but if their product is bad, it will destroy our business. perhaps we can demand through legal action. but as said above, if there is evidence but if not. precisely the law will attack us.

8 months ago

Good news, thanks

8 months ago

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8 months ago

This ico project will be good if it goes according to reality, it does look difficult, but we must be sure we can make this breakthrough become real.

8 months ago

very good

8 months ago

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8 months ago

joining blockchain is his one-way path to get a patent

8 months ago

the problem here is the lack of legality that governs the blockchain so it is very easy to happen plagiarism, so it is advisable you always register your idea to the patent

8 months ago

Если вы создадите патент и пометьте его блочной цепью, то другой человек все же может сказать, что оригинальная идея не ваша. Другой человек может сказать, что они не довели эту идею с помощью блокады, потому что они собирались добавить в нее некоторые функции, или они собирались изменить / исправить эту идею. Другой человек также может сделать аналогичный продукт, получив идею из вашей оригинальной идеи. И опять то же самое случится, иск. Итак, по моему мнению, лучше всего, не утечка вашей идеи.

8 months ago

Ethan Clime

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8 months ago

Nice! :D

8 months ago

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8 months ago

The patent is an good idea for this but actually make an patent will cost a lot of time and there is always a risk to someon can steal it and use

8 months ago

Good

8 months ago

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8 months ago

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8 months ago

看起来区块链技术在未来的发展前途会很广,这就是一种很好的应用,加油,好想法

8 months ago

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8 months ago

Ok

8 months ago

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Ok, I will try to speak in English.

8 months ago

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The Project look like very strong, while potentially helpful, if want to protect the laws around patents it should be regular mean or time based monitoring and maintain as a checklist.

8 months ago

I don't have much opinion or suggestion.. coz im newbie ini the crypto world. As long i know base on other projects on cryptocurrency mostly use smart contract then use tools or apps to built on. smart contract also safety.

8 months ago

good and super nice token ..
i respond big you token...😙😙😙😙

8 months ago

Ethan Clime

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8 months ago

Hi Crowdholding;

A partnership with LociCoin might be interesting. They do exactly that.

You might find more inspiration on the following websites:

https://locipro.com/
https://locipro.com/locisearch/

8 months ago

Ethan Clime

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Cheers for sharing.

8 months ago

Great idea. I'm not the IP lawyer I could be (well, I'm not a lawyer at all), but back in the day it was considered evidence to post 'evidence of authorship' to yourself through registered post. Just don't open the parcel - leave it sealed.

Blockchain obviously offers opportunities way above and beyond this. It actually makes me wonder whether your steemit post qualifies as such. It's on the blockchain already.

Like I said, I'm no lawyer, but you are seriously onto something here.

8 months ago

Joss

8 months ago

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8 months ago

We could document the idea on CH as soon as possible. And do iterations. When and if it comes to the court, CH can take the stand and show the date on which the idea was documented, and the dates when it was iterated.

8 months ago

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8 months ago

Ethan Clime

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not about changing the laws, it's about cutting out 3rd parties like lawyers or other servies required to fight in court.

8 months ago

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services*

8 months ago

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8 months ago

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8 months ago

Super mega project !

8 months ago

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8 months ago

nice i like that project, keep going

8 months ago

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8 months ago

Регистрируйте патент в лояльной стране и пусть идут в суд

8 months ago

Ethan Clime

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Hello. During the early stages of CH, we kindly ask you to use English on our Dapp to support our global business outreach. In the future, we will look into multiple languages.

8 months ago

how its project goood

8 months ago

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8 months ago

Google Patents

8 months ago

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8 months ago

Hello guys! Filing a patent is not prohibitively expensive. If you have a lawyer in your team that can prepare the documents if can be as cheap as 500$ for filing it. If you have to pay the lawyer hours too then the costs baloon a bit from 1.000 to 16.000$ for the most complex software patents. Hardly big bucks in the crypto world.

The whole point of filing patents is that a bigger company doesn't steal your work. There is no other proof that holds in court besides the patent. Nobody cares you used it firstas it is insanely hard to prove.

Decentralization is the wild west. You can fill patents as much as you want, but a little operating change in the software brings you around the patent and nobody can sue you as the underlying technology is open source.

It is funny to try protecting the products of tomorrow with laws of last century.

8 months ago

Hello Fatalninuda, thanks for sharing your thoughts with us!

I totally agree with you. A company should have the time, the ability and the money to protect its intellectual property by filling a patent.

However, this problem might happen to individuals. For example, someone provided a great idea to a business on Corwdholding. :-D The team used it to profit and they didn't give anything to the contributor. Most importantly, the company has filed the patent.

The questions are, can we use blockchain to somehow store data, such as Corwdholder's valuable ideas? Because the data on the block is very difficult to be altered, unless the manipulator controls the network majority.

Just image all Corwdholders' comments are safely saved on the blockchain. Is this technologically possible?

If a company filed some Crowdholders' ideas as a patent, can the blockchain data be an effective evidence in the court to reject the company's right to use the patent?

I would like to hear your thoughts about my concerns as well!

"It is funny to try protecting the products of tomorrow with laws of last century."

Hi, I just quote you, I didn't copy it!

8 months ago

Storing messages or data on the blockchain is easy. You could have this whole forum on blockchain. The validity of data would still have to be proven in a court of law.
Internet forums are not a legal tender.
It could be use to make business look bad, it most likely wouldn't hold up in any sort of litigation, though.
Unless you make a legally recognized contract blockchain platform.

8 months ago

Feeling some knowledge here, gave some extra reward!

8 months ago

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I don't know how it works in Europe and USA, but in Brazil you have to wait several years, sometimes you have to wait more than 10 years!! And while this, there's the risk of someone steal your idea and register patent in another country (we have too many cases like this) less burocratic.
You should be assecured of your ideas/projects while your patent isn't registered yet, I mean, while the process isn't finished yet.

8 months ago

Lovely project...Its so different.I enjoy very much.

8 months ago

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8 months ago

NICE

8 months ago

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8 months ago

The most important is keep database secret!

8 months ago

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8 months ago

Nếu bạn tạo ra một bằng sáng chế và dán nó bằng blockchain, thì người khác vẫn có thể nói rằng ý tưởng ban đầu không phải của bạn. Người khác có thể nói rằng họ đã không đưa ra ý tưởng với blockchain bởi vì họ sẽ thêm một số tính năng trong này hoặc họ đã được về để sửa đổi / sửa chữa các ý tưởng

8 months ago

Ethan Clime

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Hello ngo, During the early stages of CH, we kindly ask you to use English on our Dapp to support our global business outreach. In the future, we will look into multiple languages.

8 months ago

bạn phải quảng cáo rộng, với bảo mật tốt

8 months ago

Ethan Clime

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Hello Nguyen, During the early stages of CH, we kindly ask you to use English on our Dapp to support our global business outreach. In the future, we will look into multiple languages.

8 months ago

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9 months ago

If you create a patent and tag it with blockchain, then other person still can say that the original idea is not yours. The other person can say that they have not put up the idea with the blockchain because they were going to add some features in this or they were about to modify/rectify the idea. Other person also can make a similar product after getting an idea form your original idea. And again same thing will happen, lawsuit. So, according to me the best thing is, don't leak your idea.

9 months ago

Hi Dev Ranjan! You know I have the same concern as you do.

You can always make an excuse as, I come up the idea first, but I was not physically possible to document it.

I think popularise Blockchain will bring a lot of help, but it takes time.

If time is not an issue, I actually came up a solution, but if I told you, you might say I am crazy.

As we are slowly using more electronic devices than papers. So, we may say one day we will use electronic devices only. Even later, electronic devices might implant into all humans. AND if we connect all devices with blockchains. All logs, all movements on devices will be recorded and saved on the blockchain and on one can possibly alter it or delete it. No one can say that I was not physically possible to document it anymore. Because in that era, recording and saving will be a part of life.

This thought came to my mind, after I watch that recording eyes episode from Black Mirror.

8 months ago

супер

9 months ago

Hello, During the early stages of CH, we kindly ask you to use English on our Dapp to support our global business outreach. In the future, we will look into multiple languages. Also, tasks are attended to bring feedback for CH and business to achieve success by validating and utilizing crowdsourced knowledge. We kindly ask in the future to comment according to the question to help solve fundamental challenges the industry faces. The better the comment the more votes you can get. Cheers.

8 months ago

Cool!

9 months ago

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8 months ago

very good

9 months ago

Ethan Clime

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Hello Larisa, tasks are attended to bring feedback for CH and business to achieve success by validating and utilizing crowdsourced knowledge. We kindly ask in the future to comment according to the question to help solve fundamental challenges the industry faces. The better the comment the more votes you can get. Cheers.

8 months ago

Decentralized businesses in the future has the potential to disrupt those who stay centralized. This means CH needs to prepare and support the industry from future attacks that are inevitable from businesses too slow to change their business models.

9 months ago

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9 months ago

The problem is that a blockchain, while potentially helpful, will not change the laws around patents and protection of intellectual property. Even if you could come up with a blockchain solution, you would still need to lean on the courts to enforce your rights, and the courts look to the law.

9 months ago

That should say "The problem is that a blockchain solution..."

9 months ago

Haha, I think that there is a need for adding the editing function for comments. And thanks for sharing your thoughts with us.

Sometime, I also think, the problem is not to provide a blockchain solution. The problem is the law is not progressing with the technological improvements.

Patent rights arrived when the printing technology allowed majority to be educated, to be thoughtful, to be able to produce ideas, to allow the spreading of ideas and to profit from ideas.

Now blockchain technology has arrived. I am not certain to predict the actual function of blockchain in the future, maybe blockchain solution can replace patents. But there must be a law change in the future toward blockchain, since it can change our life in many aspects.

8 months ago

Agreed. My point is just that the technology has to wait for the law to catch up.

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9 months ago

We can offer an alternative scheme where the inventors of the technology get a percentage amount of cash whenever the idea is used for the next 70 years , this way companies can used patents with moderate fees and avoid any legal issues while the owner of the patent wont have to sue anyone or renew their patent as it lasts indeifnitely

9 months ago

Hi Cable, thanks for sharing your view with us. it is a wonderful idea. I have similar thoughts.

However, how can we know who are using the IP? Maybe he or she didn't report to relevant authorities, but he or she is profiting from it.

A way to solve my own concern is to open businesses to the public.

As we see that many blockchain businesses are appearing on the internet. Their landing page and their social medias provides many details of their businesses, for example, team member information, business model, roadmap and revenue stream.

And thanks to blockchain, now we see blockchain businesses' financial status, for example, I can go to etherscan.io to check all ERC20 businesses's tokens, where they go, who is holding them and etc.

Businesses are becoming more transparent. Why not open it more to allow ideas, invention, patents flow from outside to inside, and give a share of profit to contributors?

AND this is exactly what Crowdholding is for. It is for Open Innovation! Open your business and share your research and development with others, and allow others to contribute into your business. For example, you contribute an important idea to a business, and the business can award you 1% or 0.2% of their total token supply. If business goes well, you will be rich by holding these tokens. However, you are not sure. As a token holder plus a contributor, you will feel obligated to support and to assist the business.

Co-creation is great! No more hiding patents from others, if we all open our businesses up.

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