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Hello Crowdholders,

We are constantly striving for novelty and changes on our platform, as of today non-signed up users on Crowdholding cannot make any comments or do up-votes. Here we came with the idea to implement some more features on our platform and as our users your opinions for us are valuable.

So, what could be pros and cons of the changes (listed below) on our platform?

  • What if we allow non-signed up user to comment on the task.
  • What if we allow non-signed up users to up-vote on the comments.
  • What if we allow making comments while being as incognito user.
  • What if we allow making up-votes while being signed-in as Anonymous user.
  • What if we allow users down-vote but only with an argument.
  • What if user goes on a crowdholding.com and instead of getting on a main page gets directly to the news page were the tasks are placed.
  • Should we limit the amount of the votes to 1 per person per task?

 





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1 month ago

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2 months ago

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2 months ago

What if we allow non-signed up user to comment on the task.
Pros: there will be more comments, but will be the posts good quality?
Cons: maybe there will be more spammers

What if we allow non-signed up users to up-vote on the comments.
Pros: I think that will be only possitive, there is no way how to abuse it, so I recommend it ;)
Cons: none

What if we allow making comments while being as incognito user.
Pros: It brings more people to comment, because a lot of people don´t want to be visible, cyptocurrency and internet is a little bit anonymous right?
Cons: Spammers? Low quality comments?

What if we allow making up-votes while being signed-in as Anonymous user.
Pros: if there will be one vote- one member, there isn´t anything wrong...

What if we allow users down-vote but only with an argument.
Pros: yes, there is good, because disagreement is also a vote
Cons: arguing and spamming in comments?

What if user goes on a crowdholding.com and instead of getting on a main page gets directly to the news page were the tasks are placed.
Pros: They will see that they are active
Cons: They won´t see your goals, vision, success...

Should we limit the amount of the votes to 1 per person per task?
Pros: yes I agree, there will be better objective value

Keep good working, team!

1 year ago

I think the good thing about the changes is that it will reduce on the spam rate as serious people we assume they must sign in first.

On the other side response rate will reduce but I don't think that's an issue

1 year ago

For me it's:

What if we allow non-signed up user to comment on the task.

+ You could get more interaction from outside people. Somebody might want to comment but doesn't always want to go through the registration process.
+ Could bring fresh air into the community (assuming after some time there will be a specific group more present than other)
- Since it will be so easy to comment, anyone will be able to do it. What I mean by that is that if people make some effort, they usually value stuff more (I treasure things I earned over those that were given). And since now they won't have to go that extra mile, it could project into the quality of the comments. It doesn't have to be a big shift since your reward system kinda takes a lot of the risk away ("you will get money but only if you provide quality content") but I'd still take it into account.

What if we allow non-signed up users to up-vote on the comments.

(Same as previous more or less. With the difference that this would be more susceptible to error..."oh hey guys I wrote that comment, give me likes" if this is posted by someone very popular on their social networks, it could really disrupt the equation vote = value

What if we allow making comments while being as incognito user.

Probably same thing.

What if we allow making up-votes while being signed-in as Anonymous user.

Same.

What if we allow users down-vote but only with an argument.

Why would you want to downvote? You'll give people the ability to fight. Only way this could make sense for me is to have downvotes as a kind of countermeasure against unfair upvotes. But.it seems way better to me to just make the upvoting system better.

What if user goes on a crowdholding.com and instead of getting on a main page gets directly to the news page were the tasks are placed.

Why not both? Take him to main page with a feed from the news. Or let him choose in settings.

Should we limit the amount of the votes to 1 per person per task?

No. That way, yes, you could avoid the "gives votes to everyone so nobody gets vote" but the con seems a bit worse. If I like two ideas of 20, how can I only choose one? Which one? If it were me, I'd become angry and give 0 votes :D.

Hope some of it helps.

1 year ago

What if we allow non-signed up user to comment on the task. I think that It is not effectless, the more the better
What if we allow non-signed up users to up-vote on the comments. I think that It is not effectless, the more the better
What if we allow making comments while being as incognito user. I think that It is not effectless, the more the better
What if we allow making up-votes while being signed-in as Anonymous user. I think that It is not effectless, the more the better
What if we allow users down-vote but only with an argument. Idea is so great
What if user goes on a crowdholding.com and instead of getting on a main page gets directly to the news page were the tasks are placed. It is very inconvenient
Should we limit the amount of the votes to 1 per person per task? ok

1 year ago

What if we allow non-signed up user to comment on the task.

Why would they? All you would get is a lot of bot spam pushing this or that.

What if we allow non-signed up users to up-vote on the comments.

Why would they? Same as above.


What if we allow making comments while being as incognito user.

No. There must be accountability, anon posts are just asking for mudslinging.


What if we allow making up-votes while being signed-in as Anonymous user.

Upvotes are always good, so there are no issues if they come from unknown persons. The motivation of a person to remain unknown while upvoting is a mistery though.


What if we allow users down-vote but only with an argument.

It's an ok idea, but can become a negative feedback loop. Problem lies in the argument, is it a sound one? Who decides? If a moderator needs to get involved it's better for him to just remove a bad thread/comment, without user arguments.


What if user goes on a crowdholding.com and instead of getting on a main page gets directly to the news page were the tasks are placed.

Everybody is here for the tasks so yes, users should land on the news feed!


Should we limit the amount of the votes to 1 per person per task?

No and there should be some way to incentivize voting. A very minor reward.

1 year ago

• What if we allow non-signed up user to comment on the task.
The board might and probably will get flooded with useless spam
•What if we allow non-signed up users to up-vote on the comments.
Just current users will be exploiting that to upvote their own comments.
If an outside person was going to like a comment he would already be committed and register an account.
•What if we allow making comments while being as incognito user.
I don't see the point. Are people here afraid to tell the truth?
•What if we allow making up-votes while being signed-in as Anonymous user.
Same as above
•What if we allow users down-vote but only with an argument.
People argue over anything. In this case they will be arguing just because they want to downvote you so they get ahead for the token prize.
•What if user goes on a crowdholding.com and instead of getting on a main page gets directly to the news page were the tasks are placed.
That seems reasonable. You wan't more engagement.
•Should we limit the amount of the votes to 1 per person per task?
No.

1 year ago

What if we allow non-signed up user to comment on the task & What if we allow non-signed up users to up-vote on the comments & What if we allow making comments while being as incognito user & What if we allow making up-votes while being signed-in as Anonymous user: Pretty much all the same Pros: more people will get involved and will have increased interaction Cons: you wont be building a serious user base and will be open to spam and bots and non-sense
What if we allow users down-vote but only with an argument: P:again this should lead to more interaction Cons: difficult to monitor to see if its justified.
Should we limit the amount of the votes to 1 per person per task? P: people will value their vote more Cons: people like to get upvotes, the more you restrict it, the less likely people will want to comment/post etc.

1 year ago

This is a general suggestion for comments. I believe as your platform grows (which I'm sure it will) there will be a ton of comments and there needs to be a better way to browse them, other than scrolling through them all.

My suggestion would be to allow for sorting comments by New, Hot, Rising. Similar to Reddit. And maybe show the newest comments by default. This would give someone the opportunity to leave a comment a few days after a task has been posted and still have a chance at getting upvoted. Otherwise, I think the users who comment the soonest will always be at the top.

1 year ago

What if we allow non-signed up user to comment on the task.
PROS: Might encourage more participation, additional members who have the opportunity to test the platform out before they register.
CONS: Although you might get more participation, it would be very difficult to prevent spam/trolling comments. I think the cons outweigh any pros.

What if we allow non-signed up users to up-vote on the comments.
PROS: Might encourage more participation, additional members who have the opportunity to test the platform out before they register.
CONS: It would be difficult to prevent spammers/trolls from voting multiple times or intentionally skewing the vote.

What if we allow making comments while being as incognito user.
PROS: Could encourage people to post comments without fear of reprisal/retribution/backlash.
CONS: Could encourage people to post comments without fear of reprisal/retribution/backlash -- in this case, hide behind their keyboards. In a forum that is endeavoring to foster a community feel, I'm not sure this is what you want.

What if we allow making up-votes while being signed-in as Anonymous user.
PROS: Assuming this would allow some sort of policing (e.g., only one upvote per comment), this could encourage people to participate who otherwise are hesitant.
CONS: Could encourage spammers/trolls to sign in anonymously and upvote comments.

What if we allow users down-vote but only with an argument.
PROS: Prevent people from downvoting without justification, trolling, etc.
CONS: None that I can see.

What if user goes on a crowdholding.com and instead of getting on a main page gets directly to the news page were the tasks are placed.
PROS: Saves time/clicks to get to where a user wants to go.
CONS: Users may not otherwise see important messages/content that only appears on the main page.

Should we limit the amount of the votes to 1 per person per task?
PROS: Preserves the integrity of the voting process.
CONS: None.

1 year ago

What if we allow non-signed up user to comment on the task.
Pro - more people would come to have more involvement without commitment.
Cons - could lead to unnecessary span if it´s no regulated somehow

What if we allow non-signed up users to up-vote on the comments.
Pro - Sure, if they would be granted to participate, it should be fully
Cons - I don´t see a con if the spam message were controlled.

What if we allow making comments while being as incognito user.
Pro - would be nice for those who don´t want to sign in or commit his/her identity anyhow.
Cons - The anonymity could lead to offensive and unpleasant comments.

What if we allow making up-votes while being signed-in as Anonymous user.
Pro - the same rule should be used for comments and upvotes
Cons - the rule for the previous article apply

What if we allow users down-vote but only with an argument.
Pro - would protect the original argument be dislike with a logical argument
Cons - would cut the liberty of someone express their own opinions without an explanation why

What if user goes on a crowdholding.com and instead of getting on a main page gets directly to the news page were the tasks are placed.
Pro - would be direct to the point
Cons - the person wouldn´t have the chance to explore more other contents by simply exposure

Should we limit the amount of the votes to 1 per person per task?
Yes, per task not for the entire content that could involve different topics

1 year ago

* What if we allow non-signed up user to comment on the task.

If you combine this with a CAPTCHA and a team of people that scan the comments for spam and the like, it could help bring more activity to the platform, but it could also lead to a lot of low quality/troll comments.

* What if we allow non-signed up users to up-vote on the comments.

Again, combine it with IP tracking or something like that to prevent abuse if you do. In a system like this one where upvotes can translate directly into tokens, there's quite the incentive to find a way to manipulate the voting system.

* What if we allow making comments while being as incognito user.

That might actually be a way for people to leave critical comments without fear of.. well, I can't really think of any kind of retribution this would invite, but who knows.

* What if we allow making up-votes while being signed-in as Anonymous user.

If you mean a registered user that chooses to remain anonymous for the purpose of the upvote, then I don't see the harm in it, but I also don't see any benefits either.

* What if we allow users down-vote but only with an argument.

Maybe a better system for this would be to allow to tag comments as "unhelpful", "spam", "off topic" or the like?

* What if user goes on a crowdholding.com and instead of getting on a main page gets directly to the news page were the tasks are placed.

That would be great. As nice as your main page is, I don't need to see it every time I come here :)

* Should we limit the amount of the votes to 1 per person per task?

This might be complicated to implement, but I think a better solution would be to weigh the upvotes of a user, splitting their "upvote power" (either a fixed number or decided by their current level / YUPIES earned or something, maybe?) between all the upvotes made. Otherwise, as has been commented by Mandar already, many people will just upvote one of the top comments and be done with it.

1 year ago

What if we allow non-signed up user to comment on the task.
Pros: More interaction with the community
Cons: The issue of spam can be a real pain to clean once it starts.

What if we allow non-signed up users to up-vote on the comments.
Pros: Better community participation and representation
Cons: Fake accounts and upvotes adding no value to the platform

What if we allow making comments while being as incognito user.
Pros: None
Cons: Although anonymity can be considered as a right, for a platform based off of the co-operation of the community incognito does not bode well

What if we allow making up-votes while being signed-in as Anonymous user.
Pros: None
Cons: Same comment as incognito
Recommendation for above 4 questions: Incognito only for the "Verified" users [add tiers of verification beforehand before allowing incofgnito]

What if we allow users down-vote but only with an argument.
Pros: Yes thats a great idea, but who will decide if the downvote is valid?
Cons: The issue of spam can be a real pain to clean once it starts.
Recommendation: May be downvote should be weighted with the number of upvotes the accompanying comment stating why it should be downvoted in the first place.

What if user goes on a crowdholding.com and instead of getting on a main page gets directly to the news page were the tasks are placed.
Pros: Might save a second or two. Not so much upside
Cons: The updates on the main page could be missed
Recommendation: Add a setting for a registered user on what should be their "landing page" once they log in.

Should we limit the amount of the votes to 1 per person per task?
Pros: Not so much
Cons: People dont read more than 2-3 top comments and vote. So the top voter gets highest votes no matter what.
Recommendation: Completely randomize the sequence of the comments under any article.
Create a special vote with 10 YUP reward, and ask user to go through each of the comments on a separate page, and then select the best answer at the end of all the comments. A Singular vote need not be kept at the mercy of the lazy reader. [Disclaimer: I am not calling anyone else lazy, I am describing my own behavior]

1 year ago