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Process of Securing and Using the AE Wallet: What is your feedback?

Process of Securing and Using the AE Wallet: What is your feedback?

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Hello Crowdholders, 

 

Thanks for your input on the last task. You can check out the ranking results here, including the top 5 winners who will receive the Ledger Nano S. 

 

There was a lot of fascinating ideas that will help in the future to identify use cases, so kudos!

 

For some of you who participated in the last task, you have already created an AE wallet. In this task, we would like to hear your feedback on the flow. 

 

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Once you go to https://base.aepps.com/ you are in the AE wallet eco-system. Below is a screenshot of the view you will see when the wallet loads on mobile and on Desktop. 




                                                 

 

 





 

Your job for this task: 

 

Go through the process of setting up your wallet to make sure you are secure. This task will not explain how to do it, quite the contrary, instead you must do it yourself and give feedback. 

 

Some questions to consider: 

 

Did you accomplish making a secure wallet, is it understandable?

Do you feel comfortable using the interface?

Do you have any constructive criticism?

What is missing and what would you improve?

 

Previous task participants have already attempted setting up the wallet, so feel free to recall and play with the interface. 

 

Cheers! Please be honest, as thoughtful feedback is welcomed! 


 

Important note: As AE is not yet integrated with CH, make sure to place your public key and CH username in the Survey to receive the AE token rewards for this task.  





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I liked the security idea, as we have to keep the backup of our recoverey key and can delete from the app and no where the system can then find that key as you have deleted it so only the owner of the recovery key or the person who have the key can recover it.

It is really easy to install, but the first time when i tried to create an account in the app, i dont know how i end up downloading the airgap vault and even in my frist task i have filled the survey form with that key only.  The idea is to download the app on your mobile device and then you can sync with your pc.

I have one question that if i am using both the app on the same device the wallet and vault and if i put my vault offline always is this the better option to do or to have 2 differenct mobile which i dont think most of the people can do.

What i didnt liked is :

  • If I want to give a names to my account i need some transaction fee.
  • æternity Voting, I dont know for what purpose it will be used but i found check as it needed a fee as well and i have zero at the moment.

there are some feature that i didnt get it right now but i am sure with the passage of time i will get to know it better.

Good luck and keep pushing forward.

 

2 weeks ago

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2 weeks ago

Ejay Dario guru

I'm more experience and know the circulation in this Blockchain Industry.

I used the app its pretty awesome features are great easy and convenient to use. Security protocol of the wallet are great. Good job for the team behind this work many users will choose this for its security and easy way of using it, more features to improve like value and market I suggest but overall it's quite interesting.

2 weeks ago

Igor Silverio senior

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2 weeks ago

Ryan Olesen guru

Have acted as an advisor on multiple blockchain & crypto currency related ICO's!

I've downloaded the wallet app, its pretty easy and super simple to set up!

Really liking AE and all they offer!

4-Stars ☆☆☆☆

2 weeks ago

I have not been able to yet create a wallet because i noticed that the web wallet needs to be sync with a mobile wallet and since my phone is not available right not i think i might pass or until i get a new phone.

So with this i want to suggest that if the web wallet can be made to be created independent of the bass aepp and add a functionality so that it can be sychronised later.

With this it will be easier for others also that are having this same issues like mine or similar issues.

2 weeks ago

ahmed musa expert

Creating a new wallet through the website https://base.aepps.com/ was simple and straightforward. The UI was easy to use and understand. Although improving security will be a great idea examples are fingerprint and 2FA authentication.

2 weeks ago

I downloaded the AE wallet for the previous AE task. At this point I don't remember the install process. Nothing stood out that was frustrating or difficult, so that's pretty much what you hope for with a new app.

The wallet seems very similar to other single coin wallets I've recently downloaded. Particularly, similar to Hydro Pay and Electroneum. I recognize these are three different concepts, but the user experience is similar.

Like others have commented below, I would recommend at least one layer of security for opening the app. Either a PIN or fingerprint, better yet both, would suffice. Otherwise, seems straightforward and, so far, easy to use.

2 weeks ago

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2 weeks ago

TOM STEEL guru

Creating the wallet wasn't hard it was quite easy, and also the interface is very easy to use and understand.

But there are some things that I will like to point out if anything can be done about it.

  1. If it can be made possible such that you can also create a wallet directly on your pc browser without having to connect to your phone or use your phone, don't know the exact reason why you guys did it like this, but maybe it can be added.
  2. If also the public key on the dashboard of the wallet can be written in another color, the color there is not clear, took me some time to realize that the public key was there

And also about the key phrase, what will happen if one were to lose them.

But the wallet and its interface is very nice, simple and easy to use even for a beginner.

2 weeks ago

Karen M guru

I agree about that key being hard to read. I wasn't sure what that was till I clicked to find out my key, then realized that was it in that hard to read text

2 weeks ago

I had the same experience also. until i mistakenly pressed on it and it copied to the clipboard.

1 week ago

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Karen M guru

Raphael, I think they may change that key since several of us have negative comments about it. That's what we're here for!

1 week ago

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The wallet is secure and understandable.  

The interface is very easy to use, if you feel comfortable with other wallets you will feel comfortable with this one.

I always feel paranoid about having the backup phrases makes me think someone might want to break into my apartment going after them.  I am afraid to have them in my apartment.

I don't know that anything is missing from it, unfortunately I can get revelations sometimes after an assignment.

 

2 weeks ago

ak_2v2Rd3zNTkdQjedXKPoF2zLyUeJB1A7yjyNGcVMjqQkxkDfELM Eric dexter

2 weeks ago

Karen M guru

Eric, i haven't heard any news stories yet about break-ins where the thief is after crypto wallet phrases!

2 weeks ago

Yes, I succeeded in securing my wallet.

The interface is one of the best. Very fast, simple and no slacking.

I will give it sometime but I have no criticism at the moment.

I would have preferred the password setting to be at the top since its the first one looks for.

2 weeks ago

Avi Syed expert

I am downloaded the app ,look like very awesome ,working smooth and fast ,I loved it.

 

2 weeks ago

Karen M guru

I downloaded and created my aeternity wallet via Google play for my phone. It was very quick and easy to understand. I also read thru the tutorials, which only took a few minutes. I feel comfortable using the interface. My only criticism would be that you charge a fee to register a name for my wallet.i would change that for crowdholding members.i completed your survey.

2 weeks ago

De Gem guru

Cryptocurrency enthusiast, avid reader, rapper and SDG advocate.

I think the AE app works best on phone.

2 weeks ago

Al Wallace guru

Food and cryptocurrency blogger with a diverse interest in investment/ crypto

I downloaded the AE wallet via the google play store as the majority of the time i do not have my own computer in front of me and it is easier to Access via mobile. the download of the App itself was easy enough and pretty straightforward. Once inside the app the recovery phrase was given and written down. The advice on never taking a creenshot of the phrase is a nice touch as i suppose that is what many people do, not realising that this could have serious consequences if your phone gets stolen as both app and recovery are on the same device. One thing i did think was unusual was that you didnt HAVE to set up a password to lock the app. I would probably suggest changing this as it's an important security feature. It would probably would be better if having the passowrd was the default with the option not to use it to log in. A fingerprint password option or PIN would also be nice for android as this is a quick convenient and secure way to access in a hurry. Theres a couple of features in the walet that are obviously still under construction and it will certainly be interesting to look again at the app once we can access via aepps and AENS system is fully functional. I might agree with other that the transfer page could do with a little redesign. The layout is fine bt the emoji icons make it look a bit amateurish. So perhaps a bit of modernisation on the appearance there would be good. Overall the app is fine,  the UI is straight forward and will be great to see it once fully completed and there is much more options in terms of aepps. It follows a similar desing as popular wallets like tron wallet I just feel it doesnt quite have the visual polish of tron wallet. 

3 weeks ago

dr dent18 senior

Its very simple and easy to understand. I have already used airgap wallet before.

Interface is clean and comfortable

 Its a good wallet and its fast. So far so good.

customize background color maybe.

3 weeks ago

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3 weeks ago

NARUTO RAPHEAL guru

I am a Mechanical Engineer with expertise in power and Mecha-tronics. An Entrepreneur

It was easy to create and open the wallet and the classes about securing the wallet and using it was very nice, it really makes the users want to learn more.

But when I open the app on my phone it was stuck on a pink screen saying "add to desktop screen".

And also the create account on the web desktop page is quite small I was really confused when I first open the page as to how to create a wallet, I will say if it can be made more pronounced.

Interfaced is very easy to use and I also find the size of the app very useful compared to its size, was somehow skeptical as to what the app has to offer initially very good app.

i will say if a place to add profile pics and name can be added to add more customization to the wallet.

3 weeks ago

Karen M guru

I saw a place to register a name. It did charge a fee though. I think it was 16 ae

2 weeks ago

TOM STEEL guru

how will I access it?

2 weeks ago

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Karen M guru

Tom, when you open the app, look at the bottom row. Click name, then you can claim a name. It will show you the fee to register it. That's when I backed out of that page.

2 weeks ago

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Karen M guru

Tom , were you able to access it?

1 week ago

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Laszlo Bihary

I am a web and video editor for 20 years...I really love what I do

The setup process took a while and for users who do not speak englisch so well I believe it is almost impossible, so I would sugest to do a translation task. I believe as long as you keep your seed save and also use a strong password you are safe. What I also didn't like was that I needed a second device because I only have one phone usually. I know this is for security reasons but I have a Nano S but also no more space on it for another wallet. So I had to put it all on one device but I feel 100% save. I did everything on mobile and the migration process is very simple. The whole look and feel is complitly simple and easy to understand for me.

4,5 stars out of 5 is my overal review

My AE address:

ak_uKEE33PkdrWBxBUYLP6JBcis5eLbRVYYVcdCpjfhtgNDX4aCN

 

3 weeks ago

Like another crypto wallet, on this wallet I don’t see the biometric security, the others wallets have a password login with only 6 numbers for to do Login (this last step is optional in quantity of numbers/characters to use, I think) and this app has a plus in the security! When you write the phrase for recovery the wallet you can delete the phrase from your divecie doing more secure the wallet and more personal for use. I think the secure is similar to another wallets but with the option for delete the recovery phrase. I love it!

3 weeks ago

Timothy Ester new user

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3 weeks ago

J. Dacs new user

First, making a wallet is very easy, i suggest that you add security pin code or password if you want to open the wallet.

Disable screenshot feature for some parts

3 weeks ago

Did you accomplish making a secure wallet, is it understandable?

Yes, It was easy.

Do you feel comfortable using the interface?

Yeah, it' really user freindly I like it. 

Do you have any constructive criticism?

I didn't understand what is Ledger or voting systme . I think they need to be more clear

What is missing and what would you improve?

I suggest make definition for each of thos terms on the dashboard page   æternity Voting Blockchain Explorer  Token Migration

3 weeks ago

as you are a new user on the plateform. first i would like to welcome you here.
the response that you give was ok but if you want to earn more reward for the task you need to be specific
as an example if you like the app you can say you liked it but then you have to backup your statement and give the reason what you really liked in it, so if someone from CH community like ur comment they can give you a upvote and you will get more YUP coins. good luck

2 weeks ago

Okay thank you Muhammad I appreciate it

2 weeks ago

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mike dmann guru

I am excited about the future of all crypto currency.

I have too many wallets but i gave it a try. It was to easy to setup. I thought i forgot password so i set up 2nd account. I guess i used the same password for both cause i can access both. Hope there is some themes and some ablity to change for a custom wallet. i did manage to receive some eth and yup coins. It would be easy to explain to a newbie in crypto on how to use. I used it on android. 

3 weeks ago

mike dmann guru

I am excited about the future of all crypto currency.

Wait i did not receive any eth or yup. I have to many wallets that leads to confusion. whoops my bad,!

3 weeks ago

Karen M guru

This is why I am hesitant to create this wallet. Too much confusion. But, it looks like crowdholding plans to work closely with aeternity,so may have to reconsider.

3 weeks ago

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Karen M guru

Gave it some thought and decided to download & create AE wallet. I still agree with you that too many wallets get confusing. I hope they are all integrated in the future.

2 weeks ago

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Karen M guru

Mike, do you or does anyone else reading this remember a short while back we needed to create a wallet for some task.?Trust wallet was one of the suggestions someone mentioned. I have no idea what task/token it was for. This is part of the problem with all of these wallets.

2 weeks ago

convenient and quickly created a wallet, intuitive interface,clear explanations on security, pleased with such a new feature as AirGap ,in General, the product is very decent.

3 weeks ago

Already for the first task I have downloaded the AE app from google play. I was in a hurry and when I entered the wallet app the second time, it asked me for a password, which I think I never set up. Luckily for me, I have saved the recovery seed phrase (I use KeepassXC, which is open source, free and has an add-in on the Chrome store, so I can use it in the Brave browser). The security course makes sense, especially for newbies to cryptocurrencies, but also more seasoned users like myself.

AirGap on another phone is an interesting security option, only that I don't like to carry to phones around and I don't keep a second phone at home as well, but it could make sense to store some smaller funds on the wallet app available for daily spendings (if that becomes an option some times soon) and the major amount of the crypto assets safe on the air gap on the 2nd phone.

I tried to connect my phone wallet app via the QR code scan, works perfectly, but not sure, how safe that is... In that case I want to use the airgap. But there is a clear advantage, you can use your phone wallet app and a ledger as well, by connecting to the online wallet on a desktop PC and it is easy to use as well. Since I experimented exclusively whit Ethereum and ERC20 Tokens, I used MetaMask (very userfriendly, but the tokens by default are not enabled) and before that myetherwallet (in my opinion quite risky and not the most userfriendly option, but at least there you see any token). I have to say I like the AE mobile wallet and online wallet a lot more.

Please review my survey answer, on the first two tasks I have inserted my AE public key not correct, there have been cut off the last characters! Admin, please get in touch with me thx.

3 weeks ago

Karen M guru

Do I understand correctly that airgap is only if you have a second device?

2 weeks ago

The mobile app says so

2 weeks ago

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Ethan Clime guru

CEO of Crowdholding.com

Hey Thomas, I have your public key ending with ...8MbJHs

1 week ago

I opened the link in chrome on my galaxy S7 and added it to my home screen some days ago and that's what I've been using since. 

Well... the UI is not that of a typical wallet but with a few attempt at using it I should get used to it. 

Anyways I found your mini security course which is good but not Great - didn't complete it. And i don't know what you mean by a secure wallet but I backed up my seed phrase and activated the password. 

3 weeks ago

Karen M guru

The mini security coarse only took a few minutes to read.

2 weeks ago

Karen M guru

I chose not to add this wallet. I've said in the past, too many wallets, exchanges etc. Reading some of the previous comments, it looks like people are having trouble, including an instance where coins sent to a certain account may never be able to be accessed by the account owner. This to me is a problem and all the more reason wallets/exchanges need to work together.

3 weeks ago

Karen M guru

See update above

2 weeks ago

Creating the wallet on the base aepp was very easy. The IOS app is very sleek and easy on the eyes. I most of all like the ability to delete your passphrase from the phone, once you have written it down somewhere else. This is super secure, as well as the integration with Airgap.


The browser version is not really nice, as you are greeted by a big blank screen with 3 apps that are not really related to you account. I would expect to land first in a place that clearly shows my account and balance (and not in the top right corner).

3 weeks ago

De Gem guru

Cryptocurrency enthusiast, avid reader, rapper and SDG advocate.

Thanks for pointing this out. I don't know why the browser has to be so complicated.

3 weeks ago

I would rather prefer to have a wallet interface that acts as a dashboard for the DApp selection installed in the device. The ideal setting is in my opinion a desktop for DApp and cryptocurrency interfaces. A search feature would rock. 

3 weeks ago

Calvin Account new user

First, making a wallet is very easy, i suggest that you add security pin code or password if you want to open the wallet.

The interface is quite good, it is confusing the format of the receiving and sending address ,the public key I can't find it. Last, the making of name for your account make it free but only one time.

It is good for the beta testing, there's a lot of improvement, I suggest the price put it in your wallet, the format of the address make it simple, just make it a straight line because it is very confusing and the public key where can I find it. That's it hoping for the improvement of your wallet, Good Luck.

3 weeks ago

Calvin Account new user

This is my ae receiving address from the web wallet

ak_v6iUWMSocxqcG3Fbcepi7fdkHPYYgaUknpuT4ubtCbhVW9MzF

3 weeks ago

dr dent18 senior

Its a very good wallet and i did use previous AE wallets as well. Would be better if this wallet is secured by fingerprint scanner as well. Pink background looks a little dull.

3 weeks ago

TheCrypto .Tips guru

I do both things that measure our entire World => UX & TA

  • Mission accomplished
  • I do, is was really easy
  • Not really
  • Connecting Ledger was not so clear

3 weeks ago

De Gem guru

Cryptocurrency enthusiast, avid reader, rapper and SDG advocate.

I don't think I'll receive my AE tokens because I used an AE address from one of my exchanges, which isn't okay. To worsen the situation, that is the address I've used for all AE tasks here which is definitely not something to write home about. For this task too, I'm not sure I'll get the AE tokens because I'm using the same address.

Creation of the web wallet is supposed to be simple but it is annoying in this case. I don't have to visit so many places to create a web wallet. I use CH on my desktop because my phone gives me problems and so I don't expect to go to "Google Playstore" or "Download on App Store" on my laptop. Just simplify the AE web wallet. Downloading "AirGap" or using Nano Ledger S for the desktop all because of an address is just complicated in my opinion. If I were using my phone I wouldn't mind at all but I'm not using that. For all my web wallets, all I had to do was provide my name, email, password and a confirmation email and boom! That was it. I know you are helping but you can be simple and secure.

3 weeks ago

Ethan Clime guru

CEO of Crowdholding.com

Hey De Gem, last task tokens haven't been sent out yet. In fact, I am collecting the list today for AE... so make a new one and add it to the survey. I will not take the previous one you put.

3 weeks ago

De Gem guru

Cryptocurrency enthusiast, avid reader, rapper and SDG advocate.

Can't seem to work my way around it so send it to the previous address I put there. It's my HitBTC AE address and I'm sure I'll receive it.

3 weeks ago

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Ethan Clime guru

CEO of Crowdholding.com

We shouldn't send it to your account on the exchange... From my experience, you will never be able to access it. But maybe HitBTC is different.

3 weeks ago

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De Gem guru

Cryptocurrency enthusiast, avid reader, rapper and SDG advocate.

I use my HitBTC account for lots of deposits. I've used it for BTC deposits, Doge deposits, Bytecoin deposits, Stellar deposits and Ethereum deposits. All the wallets worked just fine. I'm yet to have a problem so let AE be the test crypto. If you're sending the tokens from an AE wallet, then it should work just fine. Otherwise, lesson learnt.

2 weeks ago

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You should not use an exchange for holding your coins/tokens, that is not safe. If any, I would not use HitBTC, they are as I no not regulated, so who guarantees you that they keep your tokens safe? I would even go so far to say, an unregulated, unaudited exchange could pull off a ponzi with ease. As they say: not your keys, not your Bitcoin (crypto). I like the fact that AE has the option of Airgap and Ledger support, security is key in crypto. Use the mobile app, make an account there and then scan the barcode on the web wallet with your AE mobile app, in my opinion very userfriendly. Better than exchanges, insert email and password, captcha, get a second-factor auth. SMS (which is no way safe) and insert that. Not to mention KYC and AML.

2 weeks ago

De Gem guru

Cryptocurrency enthusiast, avid reader, rapper and SDG advocate.

Thanks for the advice Thomas.

2 weeks ago

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Last week, I downloaded the Aternity wallet app and installed it on my mobile phone. Does that mean this wallet is not safe? The use of the interface is unfamiliar and frankly hard to understand as a whole.


What is AirGap Vault and Wallet in AE security course 4 and why should it be downloaded?  Does that mean Aternity wallet is not safe? Is it not possible that Aternity wallet guarantee safety and convenience by itself? When I log in Aternity app, it is hard to understand for me to be asked to create a new wallet every time. Additionally, the users should be able to create account name instead of Accounts # 1, # 2, and # 3. And why is 16.62 MICRO AE required to register the preclaim name? 

There are many difficult aspect in Aeternity App to understand overall. Therefore, a specific explanation for the user will be required.

3 weeks ago

John Rabbot senior

Are you going to make a web version of the wallet?

3 weeks ago

De Gem guru

Cryptocurrency enthusiast, avid reader, rapper and SDG advocate.

It's good you asked.

3 weeks ago

  • First things first, while this is probably not an issue on AE side, when I accessed base.aepps.com in Samsung's native browser and added it into my Home screen, the 'app' didn't work and I had to create bookmark through Google Chrome.
  • For the sake of consistency and absolute clarity, step 4 on desktop 'Tap on Remote Connections' shows green icon while it is blue on mobile.
  • While not a browser I use, desktop version is not functional in Microsoft's Edge - it says that the application is unable to connect to the chosen node and tries to search in Microsoft Store 'chrome-extension' without any results. When trying to scan the QR code, the app on phone says that the QR code is invalid. I tried the desktop app in Chrome, Firefox and Brave, no issues there. I cannot test this in Safari and MacOS.

Other than those bits, great job! Receive address is correctly passed over to desktop, backing up wallet works flawlessly. No problem with setting up a password. I don't own a Ledger nor can I test the sending/receiving function but it looks good.

Here are some of my ideas to expand the app upon:

  • The 'Help' button in the Transfer section. It is nice and pretty neat to have those highlighted sections but I can only see three of those highlights. Maybe add more? Maybe don't have the Help button for just three highlights since there is no such button on Desktop? The Help button is also only present in the Transfer section and not anywhere else.
  • It could be useful to have a quick 'Contact us' button in the Settings or something like that. 
  • I am a fan of identicons but a bigger fan of customization. Could the avatar be changed?

3 weeks ago

Dean Walsh guru

Don't listen to me because of who I am, I'm nobody like everone else.

Initially I visited the 'web wallet' on desktop and found it confusing. When I use a web wallet I expect to be able to create a wallet right there in my browser, whereas with yours you create a wallet elsewhere and connect it to the browser wallet. I spent a bit of time looking around for a way to make a wallet there before actually downloading the app to make a wallet and then connect it.

Perhaps either explaining this better or having an additional way to create a browser wallet would be good.

But actually creating a secure wallet on my phone was not difficult or confusing and I liked the interface.

3 weeks ago

Karen M guru

I hope one day, everything we earn in crowdholding, can go into one wallet. There are too many already & it does get confusing.

3 weeks ago