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Introducing zkSENSE: How do we solve the worlds bot problem?

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Hello Crowdholders, 

 

In case you’re not familiar with Brave browser, it is much more than just a browser. Brave is open source and built by a team of privacy focused, performance oriented pioneers of the web. If you have not tried it, please do. You can install it directly from the Brave website. 


 

Some of the most recognizable bot prevention mechanism has been brought to you by CAPTCHA systems which have been widely used to block fraudulent bot traffic. However, these solutions are beginning to be bypassed by bots. 


 

Back in 2013, it was discovered that botnet, known as Chameleon, had in fact harvested around 6 million USD from advertisers. There is a growing concern that more botnets are abusing applications as we speak.

 


 

Current solutions, such as Google’s reCAPTCHA v2 requires user additional actions (e.g. image or textual quizzes) which has been increasing user friction. In addition, invisible reCAPTCHA v3 monitors the user's behavior, thus raising privacy concerns. 


 

The Introduction to zkSENSE is Brave’s goal to solve this ongoing problem through “touch events.” When a human touches a mobile display the system triggers a device movement captured by an embedded IMU (Inertial Measurement Unit sensors). Bots generally use software simulated touches, however using an IMU there will likely be no noticeable change in the sensor outputs, thus can prevent such simulated touches.


 

Please watch this 1 minute video to see how zkSENSE works. 


 

Modern smartphones are equipped with computing software, that allows this to be possible. However, to ensure data integrity/privacy with using this trusted hardware it's important to hash the outputs of the sensor and generate a digital signature over the hash and current timestamp. This allows the detection of bot attacks while staying private for the user. 


 

Pretty cool huh?


 

Some questions to ponder for your comments. 


 

What are your thoughts on this new invention?

 

What other solutions have you heard about or ideas to prevent bot attacks? 



May the feedback begin!


 

 


 





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1 day ago

with this feature it will probably reduce spam carried out by bots that are annoying today

1 day ago

Doozy Angus new user

Awkardly Canadian...

As AI, automation, bots, and online fraud grow ever-more capable, we are going to encounter a wildly new set of online threats & misinformation.  It is getting harder and harder to tell the difference between human & machine in a digital setting, and the skyrocketing presence of bots affects us in so many ways already. 

To combat this, we have to find characteristics & behaviors that are innately human to weed out the noise.  zkSENSE certainly seems to be heading in the right direction with this task by determining bot probability without needing much input.  CAPTCHA was another huge breakthrough that we are all familiar with, but it's hard to implement everywhere as that would create a very annoying experience for us humans.  It reminds me of the Voight-Kampff Interrogation Test from Blade Runner, where a person would be forced to respond to strange emotionally-charged questions to determine if they were a replicant/bot.  Philip K Dick showed us just how difficult it can be to make this decision with 100% certainty.

What is certain, though, is that we must remain vigilant, continue adapting and creating more effective screens to mitigate the challenges posed by bots, and implement systems that do not allow automated entities to interact at high-capacity.  Our cyber ecosystems are in for a wild ride, so hold on tight!

Cheers,

Kev

2 days ago

very nice i also check this nice work dear 

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2 days ago

Nick Burchett new user

I would agree with Simon Z.'s post. I think user friction is just laziness and laziness breeds security issues. You can't have your cake an eat it too. You want easy? That comes with security concerns. You want secure? Suck it up buttercup be thankful you have the option to take control of your security. Another thing that makes zkSENSE not particularly desireable is the simple face that you completely eliminate older systems, requiring people to unnecessarily upgrade. This ia big problem nowdays with tech, and while it's nice that the availablity is there to do all sorts of neat things, the simple fact is that some systems work just fine without needing the user to spend more money.

2 days ago

Jon Williams new user

Intelligent, Insightful, Fast, Dedicated

      So, once upon a time I thought I could collect money for tapping my phone screen a million times.  I of course after about 10k times of tapping my screen decided that that was ridiculous to do.  My friend had been developing some software bots but at the time I had no computer and was living out of my car.  That whole click thing turned out to be a scam anyway, btw.  So, anyway, I devised myself a plan to make something tap my screen manually over and over and what better than the motor from a 2500 rpm hairdryer that I found on the side of the road!  I took some peices of scrap metal and somehow managed to build them into what was basically a tattoo gun for a whale.  It plugged into the car cigarette lighter and it was strong enough that it took me a while not to get it to break.  I used one of my guitar strings a little loosely because I figured that I might be found out if it tapped in the exact same place on the screen hundreds of thousands of times.  I set the thing up above my phone, started the app, and hit the switch on my insane little invention, right there on the dashboard of the car.  It did nothing at all,  No taps.  I took the guitar string and touched the screen with it again.  It worked.  I put it back together, and set if off again.  Still nothing.  The screen would not register that I was tapping the phone unless I was actually holding the guitar string myself. Well that was a waste of time! Except....

         Because of this event I did a little git of research.  I realized through the process of elimination that a smart phone must have some other contingency for reacting other than just kinetic energy bouncing off the screen.  What I learned was actually quite incredible to me at the time.  

        The human body is full of electricity.  We collect it and it quite easily in fact.  Static electricity.  We also have a very specific frequency at which we hold our electrical energy and this can be read with sensors on our skin.  The reason why the guitar string only worked when I touched it was because my electrical frequency was traveling down the nickel and bronze conductive guitar string onto my smart phone screen, tricking it into thinking that I was touching it!  Pretty, cool.

       Yes, I think Braves invention is quite nice as this would not invade our privacy much except to make sure that the strength and direction of our electrical frequency as it moves across our screen varies in a semi-random state.  It would form long term trends as we do as we are constantly programming and reprogramming ourselves but in general it would be very difficult to try to make an attempt at immitating these hugely varied patterns without drawing up some red flags.  If you collected an enormous amount of data that was only accessible to your company then differences between a humans adaptive and organic trends would be visibly different than the static trends of a machine.  However eventually AI will start catching up with that most likely.  It would however be about impossible to write an ultraintricate code that perfectly immitated these types of mass data averages, especially when it is unlikely that the people who would be making this attempt had not had the same computers running this huge field of data and therefore could not know what had been discovered.  They can't clone it perfectly without the whole picture handed to them and it would be an extremely complex and multilayered field of data with many correlations between it's potentialities. 

     Anyway, if I'm way off in science fiction world I would be surprised too much I guess.  Maybe I should get some sleep but you get what you get and you don't throw a fit! Right! ... and this is what you got from me... if nothing else at least I hope it was entertaining.  

        Cordially,

        Jonathan Caleb Williams

6 days ago

Karen M guru

Very entertaining Jon! I hope you have a home now

3 days ago

Jon Williams new user

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1 day ago

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Looks like an useful initiative. Make sure it is user friendy and does not cause the inconviences that Captcha does. Looking forward to see how it actually operates once you launch it.

1 week ago

Mozes Szilard new user

I am an everyday user of Brave Browser and I got fascinated by their project around rebuilding advertising platforms an gifting its Users for browsing. Nowadays we ARe faced many times with the bot problem, there ARe a lots of different types of bots, most of them scam or Spam bots ruining every online activity. ZkSense looks like a revolutionary option in stopping this bots taking the place of human users and acting on their behalf. I am curiously waiting for this project, In My opinion is very promising. Have a lovely day!

1 week ago

Mozes Szilard new user

The touch event is a handy way to spot bot activity, I would recommend also an upload section ( verification will go by uploading a rangon image of a specified thing ex: a pig, so the user needs to upload a Google pic of a simple pig) . Booth your touch Method and this example are game changers because you interact with the real world, this way a bot has no chance to copy human behaviour! Excelent!

6 days ago

After watching the video, it seems to me that this is going in the right direction but the bots are so sophisticated and I would say almost human "that it will be more and more difficult to find a suitable solution, but I think you can do it with the advent of the recognition of the ocular or digital fingerprint on pc or mobile

1 week ago

Once again Brave presents a very promising solution, as a user of Brave browser I am pleased to see that you keep working on inovative solutions.

 

The idea is brilliant and I hope to see it implemented as much as possible, because recaptcha V2 is so annoyingly complex sometimes that even legit humans fail it from time to time.

The only problem I see to wide adoption of the solution is that it will be working only for mobile websites as this method doesn't seem compatible with computer users, although mobile usage is huge so maybe not.

Websites creator might not want to take the extra time to implement a different solution depending of the platform.

Yet again I am not a website developper, so I don't know how complicated that would be.

 

Anyway I hope zkSENSE will becore a major player in the captcha world.

Best luck to you all

1 week ago

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1 week ago

Diovanne Sagosoy expert

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i dont think is accurate to determine a human or a bot because bot device can also program as like a human daily use of mobile to cover it self as a bot 

1 week ago

After watching the video, it really seems interesting. Although Google’s reCAPTCHA v2 may have increased user friction it still is a sure-fire method. So I guess this new technology will need a lot more testing to prove itself. And maybe an updated video with more details.

Cheers!

2 weeks ago

sounds like a good idea to fix the captcha issue.

make sure you focus on marketing and publicity to create right level of awareness.

2 weeks ago

John Arrell new user

Very cool, I think this new invention is innovative and could be instrumental in tackling a large problem. Beating the bots is a game of cat and mouse and staying 2 steps ahead is the best protection. I’m impressed.

2 weeks ago

Ryan Olesen guru

Have acted as an advisor on multiple blockchain & crypto currency related ICO's!

I feel that this will drastically improve normal captcha and will help to eliminate fraud and misuse bu those nasty little Bots!

Great video explaining its function and design.

I think were only at the tip of the iceberg with new captcha technologies and after observing what Brave has done thus far, I have no doubt they'll be able.to handle this aspect too!

 

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2 weeks ago

I think this invention is pretty cool! Recaptchas nowadays can be extremely annoying, and I'm not sure if anyone else faces these probelms but even I sometimes fail them...

However, we have to take into account that when compared to recaptchas, bots would be much more likely to work around this system. Sure, the system may be using an imbedded IMU, which might keep the bots of today out, but every day bots become exponentially smarter - and the bots of tomorrow may be able to completely bypass it. For as much user friction as they cause, and even though bots have learned to bypass them, fundamentally captchas have in my opinion the right mindset. Perhaps the emotions on not a face but rather a poorly drawn profile or even a stick figure could trick bots - how could a bot tell from a sad stick figure and a disgusted one?

Other solutions? None, actually, besides captchas of course.

2 weeks ago

A Zafir new user

My thoughts on new invention(zkSENSE) - Great invention.yet i only wish that human verification was seemless and automatic somehow.  Well i am often claiming from faucets and well it becomes a hassle and frustrating to have to do so often all the time.  However, we must do what we must and from watching the video zkSENSE is pretty fast so until there are faster solutions and other means of having security against BOT attacks regarding human verification we can be thankful that brite minds are making progress!  

What other solutions have i heard off?  None actually, this is the first.  As well i have only noticed a variety of Captcha Types.   ReCaptcha etc, etc, etc....

Now all that being said, when and how can we get one captcha or recaptcha/ verification per visit to platform and perform multiple actions,faucet claims and such?  That is the question?  

3 weeks ago

Tee Kay

I have 200 sites :)

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3 weeks ago

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3 weeks ago

joseph joseph new user

My thinking about this new invention is that it seems to be quite interesting to provide users with practical security. Because recaptcha is very annoying and delays the lives of users.
About other solutions to this type of attack zkSENSE is the first one I hear. What is important in the solutions that are sought for bot attacks is that it does not harm users in the misuse of time or circumstances, because sometimes in the rush of the day, having to stop for minutes to resolve a recaptcha and sometimes error response user and then have to start over, this is uncomfortable. That zkSENSE is a user time facilitator

Yours,

Jj

3 weeks ago

Karen M guru

I agree about the frustration of error and having to start over. Keeping it simple for the user is key.

1 week ago

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3 weeks ago

Sam BTC senior

Just a common Crypto enthusiast.. Wait crypto is not common it's special :)

Wow. I really hope that this get's implemented soon as this will be Win-Win for users as well as people hosting sites.

I see 2 main factors which drive it's popularity:

  1. User Convenience- People are sick of filling the captcha, many people get turned off by selecting multiple images and drop out of the site. There was recently an article that google was using Captcha to enhance it's google maps by making users do the hard work of identifying objects in images for free. This reallly irritates users.
  2. Transparency- When users understand that this zkSense will work in the background to recognize their finger patterns so they don't have to fill the irritating captcha they will be more than happy to use it. Everyone is aware that spamming bots have become a nuisance to all sites and software that can prevent it will definitely be welcome.

3 weeks ago

TOM STEEL guru

1. After watching the short video i will say that this will be a very nice integration into the captcha system, it seems very easy to do and use and hard to crack by bots. I will say that this is good and will far surpass the normal picture captcha that you find around.

2. Maybe fingerprint for phones that have the hardware can be an additional advantage, and also sliders captcha like the one used in the binance website, very easy to use and quite fun to do.

3 weeks ago

rainer luxus

any coin, is a good coin..

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3 weeks ago

Primoz Obolnar expert

Crypto enthusiast and in love with travelling

The idea itself seems very interesting. It will be interesting how (and IF) will it work in real world situations. Did you test it yet?

I remember how video game publishers were always trying to prevent the piracy, but somehow their games always got cracked sooner or later. Just remember for example Denuvo. Denuvo was impossible to break into - until it wasn’t anymore. I believe the situation here will be similar. As new measures of protection are invented sooner or later someone will find a way to bypass them. So, it would be very important to continuously update the product and make it harder to break.

I have seen that someone mentioned face recognition as possible solution in the comments. I believe that it would be nearly impossible, because of personal data protection and would not be good solution.

3 weeks ago

This is a very nice improvement and will go a long way in solving many problems from protecting user information to helping advertisers getting useful information form their adverts and also will help the advert and the internet market to run more smoothly.

I think that to make the app more worthwhile that it will need to be updated regularly so as to be able to withstand threat form the latest threat in the market that will be trying to hack into it, with this way it will be sure that the app will always be up to date and thus free from any hack and security issues.

I don't really know much about bot attack but I think that internet filters might be able to block some bot penetration, or using scanners and sensors like fingerprint and the likes to verify actions done on the phone and on the internet. 

3 weeks ago

TOM STEEL guru

The fingerprint idea is good and can be used, because it is very easy to handle.

3 weeks ago

Karen M guru

Except that the fingerprint doesn't always work correctly

1 week ago

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Steve E.

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What are your thoughts on this new invention?

As always, the Brave team innovates to make the world a better place and to improve the quality of life for those of us who live and work on the interwebs. zkSENSE, if fully functional, absolutely solves a real problem for companies and advertisers, as bot attacks are prevalent, fairly easy to execute, and ultimately, inevitable. According to Juniper Research (via Which-50.com), click fraud will be a $44 billion industry by 2022. In 2018 alone, advertisers are estimated to have lost $19 billion, or $51 million per day, due to such deception.

Moreover, I think zkSENSE melds nicely into the Brave Browser ecosystem and protects the integrity of the platform for advertisers, and with it, BAT value. Innovations like zkSENSE are why I am a Brave user and supporter, long BAT, and plan to HODL well into the future.

What other solutions have you heard about or ideas to prevent bot attacks?

It's no secret that bots in some form or another are on websites essentially every day, and protecting your web properties and apps is an ongoing battle for developers across the globe. Sites and apps are targeted for different reasons, and usually by different methods, so there is are many bot defense solutions recommended by experts and researchers. I have seen suggestions such as to block or CAPTCHA outdated user agents and browsers as well as known hosting providers and proxy services that are used by perpetrators, randomizing the content and URLs of authentication form pages, and many more alternatives that do not seem to be working too well. 

Likewise, there are many SaaS solutions for bot management and identification; however, because cybercriminals are increasingly innovative in their approaches to mimic real advertising activity with simulated clicks, mouse movements, social network accounts, and more, these solutions do not seem to be an effective answer. As a result, innovations like zkSENSE are crucial in minimizing loss due to click fraud, and I think will be very effective when fully functional.

Great job, Brave Team

3 weeks ago

E Yizzy expert

It's a neat solution but I'm not 100% convinced of its technical accuracy, plus it would only be possible with the mobile version of Brave for now, right? Why not use facial recognition instead? I'm not keen on the finer details here, but is face-rec currently advanced enough to differentiate between a human face and a picture of a human face? If so, cameras are one thing every single computer and smartphone have in common these days, it's more ubiquitous than the various mechanisms in smartphones. The facial scan also does not need to be user-specific, just needs to verify that a human is sitting in front of the machine. Once verified you can hash it for user privacy or throw it out alltogether once whatever function is completed. 

3 weeks ago

Karen M guru

Just curious about facial recognition. For example, if your hair is pulled back that changes your face a bit compared to of your hair is down. Also, if you have make-up on or going with the natural look? Some people look WAY different with make up! What about if you're sick so your face and eyes are just droopy and pale?

3 weeks ago

Álvaro Torralba new user

Hi, honestly, I don't think this is the final solution, and I don't say there is.

For starters, the bots could be equipped with neural networks, so they could "learn" to touch the screen.

In addition, this system, unless implemented in blockchain, supposes a degree of centralization greater than Google reCaptcha v2, since someone would have to create a list of "reliable devices" and would also control the server.

I don't know if zkSENSE could fail more than Google reCaptcha v2 or not...

On the other hand, it would definitely save the user time.

Thanks for reading and sorry for my English!

3 weeks ago

Karen M guru

I've said it before- if it can be created, it can be hacked, sadly.

3 weeks ago

Álvaro Torralba new user

Definitely yes.

3 weeks ago

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TOM STEEL guru

even if they learn to touch the screen their action would not be random and thus can be predicted.

3 weeks ago

My thinking about this new invention is that it seems to be quite interesting to provide users with practical security. Because recaptcha is very annoying and delays the lives of users.
About other solutions to this type of attack zkSENSE is the first one I hear. What is important in the solutions that are sought for bot attacks is that it does not harm users in the misuse of time or circumstances, because sometimes in the rush of the day, having to stop for minutes to resolve a recaptcha and sometimes error response user and then have to start over, this is uncomfortable. That zkSENSE is a user time facilitator

4 weeks ago

What are your thoughts on this new invention?

  • I think you have a great idea, novel and sophisticated. The problem of internet attacks is always there, it's inevitable. to solve it you always have to work hard, and a good criterion could be your project!

 

What other solutions have you heard about or ideas to prevent bot attacks? 

  • Nowadays there are many functions and applications to solve the problem of bots attacks. However, there is the whole issue of ethics, privacy and data policy, which must be taken into account. I think that the most sensible and best thing that exists today are the Google tools like the Captcha, because it is the one that people trust the most. We could talk about the issue of fingerprints, or Face ID, etc. but I think it is more complicated by the issue of data policy. But if you don't need to do anything, or resort to Captchas resolution, or anything like that and your system is able to detect if it's a bot or not, then we're talking about a very useful tool. 

 

I hope, then, that you can take the project forward and soon see the tool already established. Good luck!

4 weeks ago

NARUTO RAPHEAL guru

I am a Mechanical Engineer with expertise in power and Mecha-tronics. An Entrepreneur

For me this is good news, security and privacy has been the two main issues of computer users and programmers because the more one of them tend to advance the more the other loose face and vice versa. so if this process is good then i think that it should be looked on well and made to fit well into the need and security of everyone.

The main way to stay protected and to stay safe also is to be updated about things happening, the reason why some security becomes weak is that they are not being updated thus it makes the bot to be able to bypass it so i think that there should be, means that is put in place to ensure that the system is being updated continuously to make sure that it is well updated about any new threat so that it will not be left vulnerable to virus and threat.

 

4 weeks ago

Updating security is really the best way to stay safe because there will always be persons there to play smart and try to break into it.

3 weeks ago

The sensor solves the problem pretty well, but it doesn't say where you need blockchain or a smart contract to perform the task. Do you mean bot detection being recorded on blockchain reliably?

4 weeks ago

Totally different from previous solutions.. First of all it is very easy and it is trustful. That would solve lots of problem that we are having in todays in the web. I belive that you are still upgrading this system and there will be more and better benefit with zkSense.. I can't wait to see forward.. I think you have to promote the video i have just watched above. Advertise on google and instagram. Those are the best platform for promoting.. I am definetely sure that when people watch this video they will impress a lot..

4 weeks ago

NARUTO RAPHEAL guru

I am a Mechanical Engineer with expertise in power and Mecha-tronics. An Entrepreneur

It will all depend on how much they update the app. because bots will still find a way to go around it.

4 weeks ago

Very intersting system and i want say congratz(!) to founders. I believe this could work in any project which wants to block bots! I think this project will open new ear to stop robotics scam situations.. As far as i know the Brave supports zkSense /and it will open many more paths to this wonderful system. I have seen many things for preventing bot attacks just like captchas and solve medias but this is way way better than these solutions. You don't need to do anything, you don't need to solve captchas, the system will do everything and proves you that you are not a bot.. It is really cool and i really like this!

I wonder why you choose the zkSense name? I believe you could find more catchy name.. Anyways, congratz again, you have found something really amazing.. 

4 weeks ago

Great idea to move forward , this makes easy to users unlike Google image verifications which are irritating 

4 weeks ago

NARUTO RAPHEAL guru

I am a Mechanical Engineer with expertise in power and Mecha-tronics. An Entrepreneur

lolz, i thought i was the only one that hated that google verification.

4 weeks ago

dr dent18 expert

great idea but whats the accuracy of such technology? What about just using the fingerprint sensor of face unlock to prevent the bots infestation?

4 weeks ago

Karen M guru

My husband uses his fingerprint but sometimes it doesn't work.

4 weeks ago

Fingerprint and face sensors alone will not be sufficient to provide enough security in matters like this.

3 weeks ago

De Gem guru

Cryptocurrency enthusiast, avid reader, rapper and SDG advocate.

My first question is have you already tested this and if you have what is the outcome? Positive? I think this innovation is crucial to Brave's success and even the success of other ad companies because they are likely to copy it for their own benefit. By the way, can you patent something like this or is it an open-source idea everyone can tap into? I ask this question too because I feel you guys have really done a fantastic job in coming up with this solution to bot attacks. I watched the video and I finally understood how those bots get away with their dirty deeds.

Thinking about it, are there any other similar attacks targeted towards iOS, Ubuntu, etc. since the Chameleon botnet attacks were mostly Windows related?

I believe the problem is operating system-related and any other solution to these bot attacks apart from zkSense will lie there.

4 weeks ago

Nuno Caeiro guru

I’m software developer/team leader for 15+ years

1. Current solutions are pretty much intrusive while you use the sites in a normal behavior. If you can make it private and non intrusive it would be great.

 

4 weeks ago

I don't think it's  a good a idea, try a finger print sensor attach to it. Much seure because we have no identical fingerprints. And it tooks more confusions #JustMyOpinion

4 weeks ago

Karen M guru

My husband uses fingerprint and it doesn't always work.

4 weeks ago

Ethan Clime guru

CEO of Crowdholding.com

maybe it's all about time. As things develop the technology used for finger print access could in fact work better... until a bot figures that out ;)

4 weeks ago

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NARUTO RAPHEAL guru

I am a Mechanical Engineer with expertise in power and Mecha-tronics. An Entrepreneur

It is easier for a bot to disguise a fingerprint than motion coordination.

4 weeks ago

Daniel K new user

Ideas - ideas everywhere!

1. It's a great idea but would be even better if it ran in the background so that no site with chapta or sense is shown to the user. 
 

2. Tracking eye movements but that would violate so much privacy policies. 

4 weeks ago

ahmed musa expert

The idea is a good one as long as privacy of the user is taken into consideration. I never like the reCAPTCHA of a thing. It is frustating especially when someone have to do it continuously. Will like to see the developers go through with the idea.

4 weeks ago

Yea me too, sometimes those re-captchas can be very annoying and frustrating at times.

3 weeks ago

Karen M guru

I like this idea. Has it been tested to see if it actually works? Those captchas are sometimes difficult to make out. I'm not sure if all bot attacks can be prevented. There is a saying 'if you can create it, they can hack it'. Maybe this will slow them down. I remember reading about a program that can tell if you're human because it detects you eyes looking at the screen.

4 weeks ago

Hi! Captchas are sure boring as hell and very disruptive. The 'sliding' ones might be a bit easier because they don't rely on a bad quality of a blurry gmap photo... The solution you're trying to bring looks awesome, can't wait to see it in everyday browsing 

4 weeks ago

Have you seen the ones used by binance it is quite easy to use, and somehow it seems fun to use.

3 weeks ago

Dean Walsh guru

Don't listen to me because of who I am, I'm nobody like everone else.

Captchas can certainly get annoying, and it is crazy how prolific these bots are in all kinds of areas so I think this looks like a really brilliant invention to me!

I can't say I'm aware of any other solutions for stopping them.

4 weeks ago

Xery Nath new user

Quite a sophisticated innovation this is. I understand how bot attacks can be a real nuisance and eliminating them is a primary concern. As far as I am concerned anything other google reCAPTCHA is welcome for me especially one that is easy to maneuver on the surface like the ZkSENSE. I would definitely want to see it in action and even wildly adopted to replace reCAPTCHA. 

4 weeks ago

This is impressive watching from the video. its only a demo though so can't actually tell if it will work. Even with the existing one, it sometimes insists you are a bot when you are not. So I would like to see the level of accuracy and consistency. I love you invention.

This is the second antibot mechanism I have seen after reCAPTCHA.

Cheers..

 

4 weeks ago

Data is the driving force of the modern economy. As more and more people take control of their data and benefit from it, they can truly understand what data means to the modern economy. Because data has a powerful ability to make our lives easier and more enjoyable.
This data needs to be protected, but it is true that the recent bot bypassing has caused a lot of difficulties.
-Social media sites are plagued by bots spreading misinformation and sending spam messages to valuable real users.
-Many online marketers pay for the number of times they've been exposed to ad. Bots create fraudulent impressions at about 37% of the total view, eventually costing the advertising industry billions of dollars.
-The cyber security team is constantly trying to stay ahead of these bots, and the user experience often deteriorates when making bots difficult with email validation, captcha, recaptcha, and multiple click screens.

In conclusion, empowering users to control data creates a new data ecosystem where data creators can profit from data. The new ecosystem should then be used to create valuable value for the data. In a critical and growing user community, I am happy to hear that Brave will offer this new service (zkSENSE) that helps prevent bot attacks and demonstrate the value and importance of individual data controls.
However, the question is whether it would be possible to build such a solution for blockchain technology only.

Of course, I've heard of other ideas and solutions to prevent bot attacks. It is a solution called "Bot or Not" by Datawallet.

4 weeks ago

giulia Sotgiu new user

What do you think of this new invention?

It is very very interesting. Bots will get better and better and better solutions to protect us.

What other solutions did you hear about or ideas for preventing bot attacks?

I have not heard of other ideas to prevent bot attacks.

4 weeks ago