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Tipping model: Past trials shows a different story for a use case

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Hello Brave enthusiasts, 

 

First, if you haven’t used Brave, you can download it here and support CH and give it a try!

 

Now onto the task: 

 

Brave is continuously trying to expand their tipping function, with the latest on Reddit & Vimeo. It sounds like a positive approach to a working function that is scaling. But is it? 

 

The idea of tipping is not new. In fact was tried out in the past, which failed to get enough traction.  

  

 

Both Reddit & Vimeo have tried to create a tipping functionality before. In 2012, Vimeo rolled out their Tip Jar where the content creators can receive donations. But they shut down this function to focus on “pay to view” model in 2015, clearly showing that creators were not earning enough from the tipping model.  

 

In 2013 Reddit allowed tipping using BTC from a tipping bot, which was shut down followed by the company Changetip going live in 2014. Changetip showed some progress growing for the next two years to 100K users and 350K tips. However, they also had to shut down as their costs to maintain the system and servers had them lose money. It also didn’t help employees of their team were bought out by AirBnB. 

 

So what is working?

 

It seems tipping, where the creator then takes an action after user tips, could be the approach. Although this brings more similarities to the “pay to view” option. Humorously, where a model of tipping works is seen in the Porn Industry, where sex entertainers take an action for being tipped by the viewers. 

 

Although it’s hard to know stats, potentially Brave solution is working, but only time will tell regarding cost efficiency. 


 

Now onto questions:

 

Are or would you tip frequently as a Brave user?

 

Do you see past market failures as positive or negative for Brave? 

 

What ideas do you have that can have Brave achieve success with a tipping model?

 

Look forward to the feedback!





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I think brave is going good with proper marketing strategies , the past failures has not  to consider when compared to brave , because brave is a crypto currency coin and already the coin was huge success 

5 hours ago

Yes Reddit could not make their reward program an they still have nothing to share with their users and i am sure they want it badly.. Why don't Reddit use Brave's reward program? Have you ever spoken with them? I think they would interested in with you. I have downloaded Brave 7 months ago but haven't use tipping option. I think Brave management should talk with the big companies which they could use your reward system. I believe that you would find some companies for sure.   
 

1 day ago

Are or would you tip frequently as a Brave user?

No, not really.

Do you see past market failures as positive or negative for Brave? 

The Brave browser is unique and first web browser that pays. Reddit is a question / answer forum and there would be millions questions and answers and they wanted to create new system with those millions of participation but failed. If they were succesfull everything would be very different today.. I was creating articles and questions there and i though that i could make some extra money with them but the system failed.. Also heard about Changetip but it also failed. So the things happen in the past won't affect Brave.  

What ideas do you have that can have Brave achieve success with a tipping model?

First of all you need to start something that the Brave browser users could make some BAT coins. It can be paid to click ads or you can start faucet which would pay hourly or daily free BAT coins. So i believe that you should reward people first and than the people would start tip each other.. I also can't making any BAT from my Brave Browser because when i open the browser the system says: Sorry! Ads are not yet available in your region. By the way i am living in Istanbul, Turkey. I wonder when it we available in my county?

Thank you..

1 day ago

Are or would you tip frequently as a Brave user?

I haven't been tipping frequently as a Brave user. I have two reasons that I'm not tipping often.

  1. My BAT to tipping ratio doesn't feel high enough. What I mean by that is that I only earn a couple BAT per month. Even tipping one BAT to a content producer feels high because it's half of my wallet for the month. It's possible as my wallet grows I'll be more likely to tip.
  2. It's hard to know who's accepting tips. I know I could find some on the Brave website, but that's not how I browse for information. It would be helpful if there were more ways to make it apparent when people are receiving tips.

Do you see past market failures as positive or negative for Brave?

I'm not sure. I see Brave as a unique project for tipping - I don't have to deposit my own money to tip, and that is positive for Brave. I'm not accustomed to paying for content online, so why would I pay someone out of my own pocket for information that could be literally smattered all over the internet for free? Brave recirculates their ad revenue to my pocket to create something that's easily tipped. Hopefully this difference turns out to be positive for Brave.

What ideas do you have that can have Brave achieve success with a tipping model?

I would suggest improve on how you steer Brave users to content producers that accept tips. Perhaps that could be with a widget or something integrated into google search results? Maybe it's putting the directory more upfront so that users know where they can spend their tips. Currently, I'm not even sure how to find that directory, and it's not apparent from my first glances. Maybe encourage content producers to more prominently promote that they receive tips. On twitter, it might be helpful to only show the tipping button for twitter users that accept tips.

Ultimately, I think Brave is going in the right direction. It will take time for the network of content producers to build a critical mass to accelerate adoption. I'm hopeful that I'll be using, and maybe even receiving my BAT in the future!

2 days ago

I think! for the brave to achieve success is to make highest price of the BAT or Basic Attention Token.. to improve the number and interest of the user's to use brave browse..

4 days ago

> Are or would you tip frequently as a Brave user?

Depends on what frequently means. But I would tip sometimes. I have been willing to give some money to my favorite Youtubers, or musicians at sites like Bandcamp and Soundcloud, but in the end I gave up as I had to open up a Paypal account or something like that, and the means of payment that they offer to charge your Paypal account (like credit card) are not convenient for me. Having BAT tokens already in the browser without the need for extra bureaucracy to tip, I would certainly tip more. 

> Do you see past market failures as positive or negative for Brave? 

The failure of the Vimeo case is related to my first answer. They offer Paypal and credit card payment. Many people don't have those. With Brave the process is much easier and painless. About the reddit tipping bot I don't know how it works, but as a Reddit user I can say that I never even heard of it, which again is different from Brave. If you use the Brave browser, probably you know how tipping works, as it's clearly visible in the UI. I think also that people feel more compelled to tip in BAT since it has a "virtual" nature, many people won't feel like it's costing them real money by tipping.

> What ideas do you have that can have Brave achieve success with a tipping model?

I think Brave has to continue reaching to content publishers and integrating other websites as they have done for Reddit -- Soundcloud and Bandcamp are examples. Once publishers are able to claim BAT rewards, they will recommend the use of the Brave browser, which in turn will bring more users to the platform and therefore more tips will be given.

4 days ago

Daniel K

Ideas - ideas everywhere!

Are or would you tip frequently as a Brave user?

I've been using Brave since the start but mostly on the mobile platform. Since the tipping within the iOS app isn't integrated into the UI as I'd like I haven't tipped much. But I'd probably do it if the the content is special somehow  

Do you see past market failures as positive or negative for Brave? 

Kinda positive since most other projects are down even more. I like it how the Brave-team continues to deliver. 

What ideas do you have that can have Brave achieve success with a tipping model?

An even more functional mobile-app (for instance the tipping-function). 

5 days ago

1. I used brave for 4 months now. I tipped for the first time today. It was very easy. I would tip users I believe, deserve support.

2. The market failures may delay Brave, but over all i don't think it's a negative or positive.

3. Brave needs a easy to access Tipping archive. I archive would allow users to keep track of their tips and promote tipping of BAT 

Brave works great for me. Thank you!

6 days ago

1. I personally would tip regulalry on Brave, as this would encourage crypto adoption in general.

2. I see it as positive as Brave can learn and optimize. Additionally the market readiness & awareness was at a much lower level compared to today.

3. My feedback is to link tipping to subscriptions and follows i.e. a default amonut is auto-tipped when a user subscribes.

1 week ago

1. I do tip but not frequently

2. I beleive it as a positive hopefully raves dev team have learned from past market fails.

3. I reall have no clue how to make tip function better.

I have been using Brave for 2 months and I quite like it. My YT channel has received $10 so far worth of BAT in tips and I got my first payment from ad views.

 

1 week ago

Steve Engravalle new user

Are or would you frequently tip as a Brave user?

I have been a Brave user for over a month now, and I use it all day, every day. As a browser and a concept, I love it. I have been slowly earning tokens, as I've opted in for the maximum of five ads a day. However, I have yet to tip anyone since I don't hold enough coins in my Uphold wallet. Once I accumulate enough BAT coins, I feel my tips will most often go to Wikipedia at this time, as I use the site a lot for my work and research, and I always donate every year. In the long term, I can see myself frequently tipping, as it becomes more of a habit, and as more of the content providers that I frequent opt-in to Brave Rewards.

Do you see past market failures as positive or negative for Brave? 

I do not see past failures as having any impact on Brave and the future of BAT. With Brave being a Chromium-based, private, fully-functioning browser that is up to eight times faster than Google Chrome, support and allows all Chrome extensions to function, and that offers financial incentives to users, something no other browser even considers doing, I see it as a huge success in the future. As a result, I believe Brave will overtake other top browsers as the word get out and the platform matures.

With the Brave user base growing at an impressive 10% per month, according to Brave CEO Brendan Eich, and with a cost per click (CPC) ad rate presumably around 0.07 BAT, this puts Brave well-below the market averages for Google ($1-$2) and Facebook ($0.30-$0.55), and is very attractive to advertisers. As a result, I only see great things for Brave and BAT in the future.

What ideas do you have that can have Brave achieve success with a tipping model?

The ultimate struggle right now is for new users to learn about Brave and its benefits as well as to understand the concept of the BAT tipping model. I think that will come with time. 

As far as functionality goes, I do suggest a pop-up, or perhaps a simple call-out, that opens on each page to remind users that the content provider has joined Brave Rewards, as requiring the user to click on the Brave icon might inhibit tipping from some users who do not take the extra action due to not being in the habit of such an activity. Perhaps that type of pop-up or call-out could be a default feature moving forward with an opt-out switch ion preferences for users who dislike it.

I would like to see more content providers and sites embed Brave code like Twitter does to encourage tipping and get the word out about the Brave browser. Twitter's clear integration is outstanding, and I am curious to know how that clear synthesis impacts user tipping. I'd hope that sites could display the  Brave tipping icon outside of the  Brave browser environment with non-Brave browsers merely redirecting to an install page for new users to sign up. The resulting sign-up rewards could go the websites to incentivize them to add such code.

 

**Twitter's clear integration with Brave very easy for the user.

1 week ago

Karen M guru

Very well thought out and written. Nice!

1 week ago

Steve Engravalle new user

Thank you, Karen. I appreciate the feedback!

1 week ago

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De Gem guru

Cryptocurrency enthusiast, avid reader, rapper and SDG advocate.

I love this answer. The suggestions are priceless.

10 hours ago

Braves success is not dependent on tipping it is just one thing that can be done with the bat tokens.  Many exchanges might pay for trading volume and they may be able to monitise the wallets in brave.  Braves success is about advertising and even though the price of bat is down somewhat there is a good chance they could succeed.  They could possibly make a deal with a search engine also since it has been possible to get bennofit from man and Yahoo.

2 weeks ago

Karen M guru

Advertising, speed and no tracking privacy

2 weeks ago

Ngene Obinna senior

I just downloaded bravo and I am very positive about this 

I see the past failures as a stepping stone for bravo as they can improve on their past mistake to give a better experience for users.

For now, they are really nice and so I don't have anything new to add 

2 weeks ago

I have been using Brave browser for about a month now. I opted to see 5 ads per 24 hours period and signed up as a content creator as well. When I heard about the Brave platform and looked into it I was very excited to install it. I love the fact that it protects users data, allows user to earn by choosing to view ads, and allows content creators to be paid by the people who enjoy their content. 

Are or would you tip frequently as a Brave user?

I would tip as a Brave user but not just anyone. I would tip the creators that I really enjoy and feel deserve it, and I would tip them as much as I could. If you wish to see more tipping from users then I would maybe think about allowing user to earn more BAT. Either raising the amount per ad one receives or creating a new add on to the browser. You can add about anything to the Brave browser as long as the user does not lose their freedom to choose. One possible option could be to add a community Tasks section where users can choose to earn BAT by doing things like promoting the browser or posting Brave created polls that ask questions. These polls could end up benefiting the Brave developers as well as bettering the platform upon hearing how people vote. Adding something like a community tasks section would not only enable users to be paid more BAT but it allows the community to work for Brave doing things that maybe they are unable to do.

Do you see past market failures as positive or negative for Brave?

I see this as a positive thing. It shows the willingness to take chances which in my opinion a company has to be able to do to succeed. I would say that this could end up being a negative if the idea is too similar to the past ones that have failed. I would take the parts that succeeded and expand on them. Add something new to it that would entice people to join in. As for creators taking actions for tips you could add a feature that allows the creators a choice to do this or not. This enables the possible success of creator action to be added while still ensuring the freedom of choice for creators.

3) What ideas do you have that can have Brave achieve success with a tipping model?

I- Adding a "Featured Creators" section somewhere on Braves website or browser. Reach out to creators who are signed up for Brave rewards and team up with them. Each month Brave could promote a popular featured creator by adding their profile onto the Brave browser for the community to view. Not only does this help the featured artist but Brave could essentially benefit from this artists following. Im sure a portion of their followers would join onto Brave.

II- Adding something new like a "Community Tasks" section could help a lot. My examples are as stated above. Users can choose tasks you create like "Promote Brave" where they can share Braves premade things like Polls, image links, banners, info about the browser, or even content created by Brave content creators. This enables users to choose to earn more BAT while the community works for Brave in whatever tasks the developers wish. Allowing users to share polls created by your developers can only give you more information on the market and what possible users want.

III- As a musician I know that a lot of bands and artist try to earn income online often. If you truly want to help creators and grow in users then you are missing a large portion of creative artists as well as the people who follow them. Incorporate any sites you can where artists have their profiles and original content. I was disapointed when I could not add my own music to a channel in Brave browser because most of what I create is not on the sites available. Its on places like Soundcloud or Reverbnation but there are tons.

IV- Brave created or suggested extensions that can be shared to the homepage. These could add games that offer BAT or promote already made extensions that would enhance the Brave browser without much work having to be done on the developers part. User can earn brave by adding such extensions. 

I do think that if Braves userbase has option to earn more BAT then the tipping system will see more action. Teaming up with artists or other small businesses could also benefit both parties in my opinion. Its win/win and those are the kinds of things I would be trying. Try to add to the feeling of a real community with your users and make sure people know what these other browsers are doing with their data. I think a lot of people arent aware or havent really looked into these things. You are already providing much more than just a web browser, people just need to to hear about it.

 

 

Some thought I have had while using the Brave browser:

For users who may tip as well as content creators who are looking to be tipped the websites allowing this feature need to be expanded if possible. As a musician who is trying to make money off of my own music I was hoping to see this feature able to be used on Soundcloud or Reverbnation profiles. The list of places for creative and original content is endless.

2 weeks ago

Steve Engravalle new user

This is a very cogent response, and I agree with many of your sentiments. Well done.

1 week ago

De Gem guru

Cryptocurrency enthusiast, avid reader, rapper and SDG advocate.

I understand you so well. I keep a SoundCloud account and this will be truly helpful

9 hours ago

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2 weeks ago

Brave is a very good project. I have downloaded on my comp but it doessnt support my country (Croatia, Europe) for collecting BAT tokens. It is a very good idea but you need to expand your services.

Another thhing is a screen shoot, it is not user frendly to take a screen shoot on Brave.

Im following you and looking forward to see your improvements. keepup the good work

2 weeks ago

Leonard Gibson new user

Don't u have to tip the ad money u get from the ad? I didn't think I got to keep it. That may just apply to the Grant

 

2 weeks ago

I honestly think that the platform ought to incorporate gamification in the earnings model in a clear way, but allow development of third-party modules. What works for the users, works for the browser. The users are ready and willing to share their data with the advertisers, if they're compensated and they know what they're compensated for.

3 weeks ago

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3 weeks ago

Karen M guru

Nice for you to join us Syed. Your comment seems very generic rather than specific to this task. If you read through the above description, they ask for certain answers. I'm sure as you go through more tasks, you will get the hang of it. Welcome!

2 weeks ago

NARUTO RAPHEAL guru

I am a Mechanical Engineer with expertise in power and Mecha-tronics. An Entrepreneur

i think he wrote that just for writing sake, the comment can not be interpreted in any way. it is either he can't speak English or doesn't want to contribute.

1 week ago

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Are or would you tip frequently as a Brave user?

I personally wouldn't tip on Brave, or off of Brave for that matter, but that's because of how I've historically used the internet. I think in order for this to gain mainstream traction, there needs to be enough motivation or reason to tip instead of viewing ads, which everyone is used to doing. People are too used to viewing content, and ads mindlessly for decades at this point, so in order to recondition the masses something really big needs to happen, and there needs to be adequate motivation. There is just too much content available for free right now.

 

Do you see past market failures as positive or negative for Brave? 

Positive. We can always look at what other's have done and improve ideas so we don't repeat their mistakes. We'll always make new mistakes of our own, but this is how progress is achieved. 

 

What ideas do you have that can have Brave achieve success with a tipping model?

Perhaps give people the option to use the advertisement money they've earned by watching ads on your browser, and redistributing BAT to original content creators. That way they aren't spending "actual" money. Perhaps getting them to take on a new habit in this way to support your business model could be an easier sell.

3 weeks ago

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3 weeks ago

Karen M guru

Kristy, what does your response have to do with the task?

2 weeks ago

I think to report it will be the best thing to do.

2 weeks ago

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3 weeks ago

Primoz Obolnar expert

Crypto enthusiast and in love with travelling

I would of course tip, but only the content I would find worth of tipping. I am not the kind of good guy who goes on and gives a tip for everything. I believe that since at my work I must work hard to earn money, so would those who would earn tips for me. Therefore, the content would need to be useful in some way or entertaining enough that it would be worth to reward.

Past market failures are by my opinion negative for Brave, as are for whole crypto world in general.

For Brave to be successful with tipping model, it would need to support as many regions as possible and implement very simple and effective way of tipping. People do not want to sped ages figuring out the system and most of them even does not have time to do it. So keep it as plain and simple as possible.

3 weeks ago

giulia Sotgiu new user

1) Are or would you tip frequently as a Brave user?

Surely, those who create content must be rewarded.

2) Do you see past market failures as positive or negative for Brave? 

I think they are positive, every mistake helps to improve.

3) What ideas do you have that can have Brave achieve success with a tipping model?

Extend the countries whose rewards are active

3 weeks ago

1) Are or would you tip frequently as a Brave user?

Oh Yes i would, i feel every content creator should get rewardewd in whatever form, in this case, a Tip

2) Do you see past market failures as positive or negative for Brave? 

I believe Brave should see this as an opportunity and a positive sign, definitely a Positive sign

3) What ideas do you have that can have Brave achieve success with a tipping model?

Brave should Monetize the Tip Model and make it worthwhile for the Tipper as well

3 weeks ago

yehia tarek expert

Full stack Blockchain developer Looking for new Challenges

Are or would you tip frequently as a Brave user?

No, I don't know why but I donate only to help people who need money. Donation for good content culture me and my environment we aren't familiar with it.

Do you see past market failures as positive or negative for Brave? 

For sure positive, Your browser is awesome. I downloaded brave for crowdholding task but then I use it as default browser o my laptop , android phone and tablet.I think the hardest challenge for Brave is that everyone is comfortable with chrome and mozilla don't need to try something new.

What ideas do you have that can have Brave achieve success with a tipping model?

Make tipping for all non-profit organizations for example you could collaborate with github,gitlab,bitbucket...etc togave tipping to open source project it will be very useful. 

Give tipping for Charity foundations on wars nations like Syria,Palestine,Iraq... etc because it's hard to send any donation to this places.

3 weeks ago

Diovanne Sagosoy expert

A SIMPLE TRADER

Are or would you tip frequently as a Brave user?

no,because brave now is not paying

Do you see past market failures as positive or negative for Brave? 

yes always negative

What ideas do you have that can have Brave achieve success with a tipping model?

make your ad support all region because our region is not supported

3 weeks ago

Karen M guru

I believe they are working on supporting more regions

3 weeks ago

Matan Argental expert

Live the moment, Think for generations.

*Are or would you tip frequently as a Brave user?

Allready tested the free tokens they gave at the start, i given two verified youtube creators and CH website offcourse. But at my country area the paid to watch ads option is still not implemented (only blocking).

*Do you see past market failures as positive or negative for Brave?

For sure its positive even if it failed, beacuse there was a process of evolution in the tech and analitycs prospective, and user expiriance.

*What ideas do you have that can have Brave achieve success with a tipping model?

Continue doing user/creator think tank to obsorve where they want to see the future of tipping models evolve to.

 

3 weeks ago

TOM STEEL guru

Tipping is a way that we can say are used to encourage publishers for doing their work it is good as it shows appreciation and it also encourages the publisher and also aids the publisher in providing more content.

I have not started using my brave browser seriously, but I think that I will surely reward/tip a publisher when i see that he has very good content or materials on the website.

The reason why people don't tip a lot is because most times the funds that are being allocated to tipping are gotten from doing much work so most time viewers won't want t tip those funds because it was gotten from their work and would only tip when it will benefit them in some way now or in the future.

So i think that tipping should be done in such a way that it can generate value also for the viewer in some way it can be made in some form of points rewarding scheme such that when you tip you will be rewarded with a point, and when you accumulate more point you will be moved to a higher level such that you will able to see more higher-value ads that will generate you more revenue and thus you will be able to have more revenue and thus you will able to tip more and generate more points, and as such get upgraded. and in this cycle, you will gain more by tipping and by viewing more site.

3 weeks ago

Karen M guru

There aren't very many different ads so far. I get the same ones multiple times. Perhaps your idea will be implemented in the future to encourage more tipping.

3 weeks ago

Steve Engravalle new user

I also like this idea: a reward system for the viewer/reader delivering the tip. Perhaps a profit-sharing model like https://www.publish0x.com/?a=Jrb218AaWL?

1 week ago

As a Brave user, I would rather automatically share my BAT with the websites I visit rather than manually tip some of them. But I don't see the negative aspects of this "rewards system" on the market: if Brave becomes more and more attractive, then many users will love to have this feature, so they can have direct impact on their favorite websites.

However, they could also create a "50/50" option where half of the BAT are automatically distributed to the websites and half of BAT remain available for tips. 

3 weeks ago

Hijack feature is good so far, not found any problems

But a good feature similar with bittube.. 
in the future i suggest to create own platform such a online video platform for all brave members,that we can tip each other inside own platform,no need to pair with external video platform,more future maybe must have own marketplace for bought some item or additional package...
Am i right?

3 weeks ago

NARUTO RAPHEAL guru

I am a Mechanical Engineer with expertise in power and Mecha-tronics. An Entrepreneur

I use a brave browser and I have not been able to do a lot of tipping because i have not been able to get any token from using the browser, and if I don't gain anything how can I help others to gain from what i don't have.

I will say that the method of ads display should be reviewed so that users will be able to gain from it and also have enough to tip to the publisher. and also i will say that for those sites that have integrated with the brave tipping functions i will say that special ads (of reasonable size) should be placed on these sites and viewers who view such sites and the ads some percentage of the money that was gotten from the ad will be used t tip the publisher automatically.

And also if other means can be generated where the user will be able to eace their ads where they get more revenue from using the browser so that they will have enough money in their wallet so that they will be able to tip more to the publisher.

3 weeks ago

TOM STEEL guru

Looks like you were reading my mind naruto, look at my comment you might find my solution kinda engaging and very rewarding, just my opinion though.

3 weeks ago

I currently use Brave browser, but do not tip.  One of the reasons for using Brave browser is to benefit from viewing the ads.  My incentive for using Brave is to earn BAT from viewing ads and then sell them at a future time.  From my understanding, tipping takes the accrued BAT that I earn from watching ads and distributes them to the publishers that I select.  This creates a zero sum game for me, where any tips I give out are a negative to myself.  I would assume that the past market faliures were due to a simular economic model and gives me a negative sentiment that it will be resolved in Brave.

One way to get around this would to be to create two parrellel rewards buckets for each user.  Ads viewing would then pay into both of these buckets.  One bucket would be the user BAT rewards for viewing ads, which would be the incentive for user to use the product.  The other bucket would be tipping BAT rewards from the ad views, which would be inaccessible to users, but would be distributed to the publishers based on the users tipping settings.  If users don't select tipping settings, then the browser could claim the BAT and redistribute to all publishers based on a centrally programmed distribution model.  This would continue to give the users an incentive to use the Brave browser, and give out set amounts of BAT to publishers either dependent on Users preferred publishers or defaulted to a centrally programmed distribution system.  This way both users and publishers will get paid.

3 weeks ago

NARUTO RAPHEAL guru

I am a Mechanical Engineer with expertise in power and Mecha-tronics. An Entrepreneur

I think this model would serve as the solution since it serve both as a positive gain to the user and the publisher.

3 weeks ago

Fred Blauer guru

Open for business

I think that tipping is counter to game theory incentives. I think that tippers should get some extra benefits or there is no incentive. The benefit is more direct which they dont see right away. I think that people need to see a more direct benefit to tipping. 

3 weeks ago

NARUTO RAPHEAL guru

I am a Mechanical Engineer with expertise in power and Mecha-tronics. An Entrepreneur

This is more of the reason why people don't tip often because they don't see any benefit from it, brave needs to work on this.

3 weeks ago

TOM STEEL guru

This is similar to what i have been discussing, value has to be created whenever tipping is done either in kind or in cash. nice one Fred.

3 weeks ago

1. Tipping contents I find interesting is not a problem to me

2. Previous failures should be improved upon to achieve success in anything we do in life. So I think that's what Brave should do

3. I think rewarding viewers would increase interest in the concept

 

3 weeks ago

Nuno Caeiro guru

I’m software developer/team leader for 15+ years

I tip the contents I like every day.

I believe the past failures would help to improve the Brave tipping model, which shouldn’t be static, rather evolve and adapt along the way.

 

As a mobile user, the tipping function and rewarding should be available on Brave IOS app. More people is using mobile only to search for information and browse, so I believe it could help Brave achieve success 

3 weeks ago

TOM STEEL guru

i just wish that everyone was like you. carry on.

3 weeks ago

dr dent18 expert

would definitely tip my favourite sites and creators.

automatic tipping is also a great way to achieve it. Hence Bat has a better model for success than previous models.

If content creators and ads can pay us BAT for watching them, it would be a great way to increase their viewership and also good for users to earn bat and give it to other creators.

3 weeks ago

De Gem guru

Cryptocurrency enthusiast, avid reader, rapper and SDG advocate.

- I will definitely tip frequently as a brave user because I have no problem with it whatsoever. For putting out fine content, why shouldn't you be rewarded for it? My problem though is that for a long time now, a lot of people are yet to use Brave which makes tipping a bit complicated. It's like giving out money to people who want it but cannot take it because they don't have purses or wallets. So ironical.

- I see past market failure as a positive reinforcement of strategy for Brave. You've heard the saying, "He  who doesn't learn from history is bound to repeat the same mistakes." You cited Reddit, Vimeo and Changetip as failures of the tipping strategy. This means there is a pattern prevalent among all of them that you should avoid. I believe there are other sites which still function on tipping. PublishOx still uses the tipping feature as well as Cent. I haven't heard any problems so far. As somebody pointed out, the Dogecoin community still encourages tipping so I think others have it right. Study both sides and map out the patterns reproduced by the ones that failed and the ones that are thriving. This way, you have an inkling that you're on the right track and your product is bound to succeed.

- Like I said, some companies seem to be doing well when it comes to tipping so it's best to study their pattern. More importantly though, I think tipping should be automatic but indirectly done. How? Instead of asking to tip, you can always ask a reader or visitor of a site to rate whatever content he/she interacted with on a scale of 1 - 5. If this is done by the reader/visitor then the tip is automatically administered based on the number chosen. If the reader/visitor doesn't want to rate the content, then there should be an ignore option so that the content can be skipped. This way, users will only be liking the content directly but tipping indirectly. Brave can then dictate how the tipping can profit them because in all ways, it is the one most likely to lose. The user/reader/visitor has really got nothing to lose in terms of tips. No matter how Brave dictates how tips are received, everybody profits.

3 weeks ago

mike dmann guru

I am excited about the future of all crypto currency.

Get those wallets working on the reg brave browser. I realize it is on brave nightly. When people are actually able to use their own promised bat they earned, im sure more people will tip.

Nope. I'd rather cash in the earned BAT and trade it for BTC.

I see every failure as an opportunity. Im sure its a great positive to learn from others mistakes.

Maybe a tipping incentive by earning more bat when you tipp more.

3 weeks ago

Alex Struik new user

1. Yes , provided the content was something tip-worthy ie. entertaining, enlightening or just plain useful. Rather than tipping many different creator sites , I'd probably end up tipping my favourite sites more. Not sure if this was what Brave's developers envisioned ?

2. Every idea has to have it's time so rather than -ve/+ve , it might just be irrelevant, it could simply have been the wrong time to be introduced. Previous failures may well have been due to general inexperience or lack of awareness of a tipping function. Prior to downloading Brave I must admit I'd never heard of it. With the popularity of social media sites which employ a upvote/like system, general awareness of this type of functionality is much higher in 2019.

3. In terms of the tipping model I'd like to see BATs released to browser users much faster, as we can't tip anyone while we are waiting for the BATs to be released to our browser wallets. 

Secondly I'd like to see a Suggestions/Comments text box on the tip screen so you can maybe leave a comment to the site Creator on why you are tipping, what you specifically liked about their content which made you want to leave a tip.

Otherwise I really like not only the functionality of the Brave browser but the whole idea behind it makes good sense to me.

3 weeks ago

Tipping for me is depended on two thing.

1. the quality of the information that I am looking for, I will surely tip in so far as the information is good and also of great value.

2. I will surely tip in so far as the information is of great value and also is worth tipping for. for me news are really not what i would tip for.

and the last subtly idea is that i will tip in so far as i have the money to tip.

tipping is always based on a charity basis if creators need more revenue for their work tipping is not the bst way to go about it.

3 weeks ago

I would tip frequently as long as I get great content.

U think Brave will access the positives and negatives, find a solution to be successful. Because they are always reviewing their products.

Tipping should be made in such a way that users can tip at anyday, anytime, anywhere to whomever.

3 weeks ago

1-No, because it is still not supported in my country

3 weeks ago

why is tipping not supported in your country? (what country is that)

3 weeks ago

NARUTO RAPHEAL guru

I am a Mechanical Engineer with expertise in power and Mecha-tronics. An Entrepreneur

Is there any country out there that don't support tipping, I find this rather strange.

3 weeks ago

is tipping for twitter or reddit available on mobile???

cause i cant see the BAT logo to send tip..

3 weeks ago

1. I want to give a tip, but  Brave is too small quantity. I cant won BAT becouse brave dont support my country.

2. Past market failures are negative for Brave's tipping system.

3. It will be nice for brave to have, like mozilla, screenshot. It will be more user frendly

 

3 weeks ago

Karen M guru

I use Brave about half of the time I'm online. I generally do not tip as I'm trying to accumulate tokens. Past market failures can be a positive for Brave if Brave learns from the failures mistakes and doesn't do the same. On the other hand those failures could be seen as a negative in that tipping is just not very popular. I have seen on publish ox where the user can choose the tip amount & also keep some for themselves. As crypto is still new to many of us, perhaps this model could work for Brave.

3 weeks ago

Karen M guru

Ever since I posted the above comment, I have not received any BAT for using Brave. Is this a coincidence? I really hope so. I also hope someone from Brave responds as I have continued using Brave as I normally do.

3 weeks ago

E Yizzy senior

First, I love the fact that Brave uses CH. This is an excellent example of blockchain supporting blockchain and it is very necessary to increase legitimacy. So thank you Brave Team for taking an active part in that. 

I have been toying around with Brave, I have some BAT and I also happen to be an active member of the Dogecoin community (where tipping is a pillar of membership). 

Here are my thoughts about the situation: people tend to be stingy with their money. I think it's a universal truth. Of course it's not everyone, I never speak in absolutes, by from my life experience more often than not. 

That being said, I think there is a certain magic to your model and what it provides, so here's what I suggest. I think the tipping model should be mandatory and automatic, based on some sort of smart algorithm. So for example, if you visit a site once in a while, then there is no tip, but if the algorithm detects you are a frequent user, then automatic tip, maybe more/less depending on how many times you used it. I think there should also be a tipping cap per month for sites, based on the amount of BAT in your wallet (so that it's always a percentage of and not a flat fee which would require loading more BAT and that turns it strictly into a pay-per model like you described in the introduction). 

This way the wallet is constantly being loaded (by watching ads) and emptied (by tipping). Otherwise people may just HODL since the BAT is worth cash. 

Those are my two cents, anyway. Thanks for including us in the process! 

3 weeks ago

 1. I want to give a tip, but I can't give it because the BAT received from Brave is too small quantity. But if I own plenty of BAT, I would tip frequently.

2. Honestly, past market failures are a bit negative for Brave's tipping system.

3. If Brave offers much better service than its competitors, I can use it while paying for it. Only after a monetization will the Brave tipping succeed, I am sure. 

3 weeks ago

1. I don't tip frequently but I would if had sufficient funds in my wallet.

2. I see the past market failures as positive for Brave, mainly because it's a cryptocurrency.

3. Increase or pegg BAT bounties and rewards attached to the use of tip feature.

Thanks and good luck again!

3 weeks ago

Helmut Gottlieb new user

Hello.......speaking as newbie in this area of investments, also much more a "earner" than investor because of my really low income. So for that I work on various PTC sites and coupons/video watch, etc. To make at least some surviving money with that, you need more than one browser to work with and I did it long time with Chrome/Firefox and Opera. I needed a 4th one and Edge does not really come in near selection for me........there wasnt.....than one day, I read an ad (cant remember where) about Brave and tried it. At first sight it seems like a simple copy of chrome and it worked also like chrome. Good, I had my 4th browser. Now I read about the BAT tipping there and took a little more time to invest. As in my job I see a lot of ads a day, some more frome Brave do not hurt. A really nice Idea, only with maybe one small advise. You should give the user the option to tip himself too. Of course me speaking now because I live from it, but I think it would be a nice way to get more users to Brave. 

1. to tell the truth, I would tip myself, yes and if no other way, I would open a website, verify on brave and again tip myself. But, if I would not need this income, also "YES" as it does not exactly cost me anything to give some respect to authors

2. I dont think the past is much important what happend.........the basic counts: You offer someone in the world a GIFT, who should complain?, remembering the past, a lot of projects had bad starts and now they are top

;3. My above Idea with tiping the user himself, make maybe some kind of Jackpot too where users could make more money in a short time

All in one, as it works fine for me, I am very happe with Brave

 

 

3 weeks ago

a great browser, it makes me feel a different experience, very smooth and fast and the best thing with brave is absolutely no ads run 3

3 weeks ago

NARUTO RAPHEAL guru

I am a Mechanical Engineer with expertise in power and Mecha-tronics. An Entrepreneur

So in all this what do you have to say about the task atb hand, have you been using the browser for a long time or not.

3 weeks ago

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