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Introducing Liberbeer: First business under Liberland Chamber of Commerce

Introducing Liberbeer: First business under Liberland Chamber of Commerce

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Introducing Liberbeer: First business under Liberland Chamber of Commerce

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Hello community,

 

We would like to introduce our first project to the Chamber of Commerce - Liberbeer.

 

Liberbeer was founded in 2016 by brewer Jaroslav Falta as a brand for the 600,000 Liberland community. There is a future contract in place on merging with Krusohor Brewery, backed by hard assets valued at 1m€ and annual profit 150k€+.

 

Crafted to perfection, Liberbeer is made with selected flower cones of hops, and water coming from Rudna Gora of the Czech-German border. Liberbeer is unfiltered, unpasteurized and contains no artificial additives blending the best traditions of Czech brewers with the global trend of craft beer.

 

Inspired by Brewdog story, Jaroslav with support of Liberland established a vision for a global network of small breweries with local distribution. With interest in the new trends of digitalize assets being used with blockchain technology, Krushoho brewery is interested in creating a token that would be used as a company asset. Not only does this give opportunities for the Liberland community to become stakeholders, but also could benefit their buying customers. The main portion of fund allocation would go to the acquisition of 51% in Krusnohor and expansion both of production capacities and for token’s infrastructure (beer consumers and distributors rewarded by tokens for each beer)

 

In this task, we want to dive into a tokenenomic model that would work well for a network of breweries. Assets could be a profit share, revenue share, loyalty or even a utility. This topic is, however, a bit tricky due to regulatory restrictions on these types of tokens (STO).

 

Here are our questions:

 

  • What type of asset should be used?
  • What type of business model do you see? In other words, what would stakeholders do in order to earn this asset?
  • Shall each batch of beer (1000 liters) or project as a whole be tokenized? How to distribute the tokens? What distribution model would you find most efficient?

 

Cheers,

Liberland- Chamber of Commerce

 





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Avi Syed expert

idea that you can exchange tokens for beer so token backed by beer would be great. Those tokens can also work as 2> What about some kind of sales/marketing/promotion support? For example some kind of reference like Crowdholding works. 3> a) I think whole project would be tokenized. b) Tokens could be given to people who buy beer and makes some reference. c) I would promote Liberbeer under Liberland so people interested in Liberland get interested in Liberbeer and become token users..

3 months ago

Roger Rigney II new user

1. What type of asset should be used? ---- You could create crypto that is traded on exchanges called LiberCoin. Having it traded on exchanges would add liquid value to the coin and allow for making actual FIAT currency. 2. What type of business model do you see? ---- I think that the drinkers of the beer should be rewarded by scanning a code on the inside of the beer that is only visible after finishing the beer. On the flip side, this would incentivize picking up any bottles that are littered on the ground as scanning them could yield real-world value. ---- Wholesale distributors could also be awarded a portion of available coins for getting the beer in more places and push them to sell it over other beer. ---- It would also be good if Liberbeer would keep a large portion of the coins to use in future sweepstakes ect to reward to distributors and consumers as they see fit. 3. Shall each batch of beer or the project as a whole be tokenized? ---- I think that each batch of beer should be tokenized, with each batch having fewer tokens attached to it than the batch before making the token deflationary. This would position early adopters ahead of the pack and help with getting the ball rolling. ---- As far as how the tokens should be distributed I think that the consumers of the beer should represent 35% of the allocation of tokens. Obviously, not everyone would be scanning the bottles to get their tokens making it possible to make money cleaning any discarded bottles found on the ground. ---- 15% of token allocation could go to the distributors of the beer. They will be making money selling the beer, so the tokens would just be an added bonus. They could either HODL or use the tokens to discount future orders. ---- Liberbeer as an organization should hold 50% of the tokens to distribute in sweepstakes and reward big players in the game. This would create a low float on exchanges and allow for big price movement which is always good for hype.

3 months ago

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Since it was released it became popular very quickly of geolocation limit

3 months ago

Ok ok, the only thing I care is the fees, with the BTC price going up as we see, the fees also do go up at the same rate, we all know its only brokers profit nothing else, so yah, that my main concern on any exchange. Apart from that website looks good :)

3 months ago

This project was great for me better to go on a platform that benefits your own maybe have a partnership to any top cryptocoins my opinion only its up to you guys to take it as a chance to growth. May have a staking in every stockholders that holds your token to give them rewards and commission for supporting your token. I think by tokenized it as a good idea I prepare to have a bounty, airdrop or sto to make a proper distribution of it.

3 months ago

danial rosli

Hello

1. One token to rule them all! 2. The more you drink the more you earn, cheers. 3. Tokenize it all. Distribution is first come first served.

3 months ago

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3 months ago

mike dmann expert

I am excited about the future of all crypto currency.

1. One token to rule them all! 2. The more you drink the more you earn, cheers. 3. Tokenize it all. Distribution is first come first served.

3 months ago

De Gem guru

Cryptocurrency enthusiast, avid reader, rapper and SDG advocate.

1. Asset to be used

I fully agree with the creation of a token for the commercialisation of the Liberbeer. If it is the native token used in Liberland as well then that will be wonderful. However, creating a token for Liberbeer only isn't the best. In fact that would be worrisome. What if you decide to create and market apple juice or tomato paste or chocolate? Will you create a token for them all. Creation of a token is good for Liberbeer but it should be the one and only token used as well in the whole of Liberland.

2. What stakeholders must do

Stakeholders can be given Liberbeer tokens based on their share or stake in the project. In other words, the ratio of your stake to the ratio  of revenue generated or bottles sold earns you tokens. How many stakeholders are there? What is the total amount of money all of them contributed? Find the total and find their respective ratios. Strike a percentage for them for every batch sold. Let's say there are three stakeholders A, B and C. A contributes $100, B has a $150 and C has a $250 stake. The total amount of money is $500. A's ratio is 1:5 or 20%, B's ratio is 3:10 or 30% and C's ratio is 1:2 or 50%. Based on this, for every number of tokens allocated to stakeholders generated from the sale of 1000 litres of Liberbeer, A will get 20% of it, B 30% and C 50%. Buyers can earn tokens through promotions, sharing liberbeer posts on social media, 'buy 100 get 5 free" schemes and other creative ways of motivating people to buy the beer.

3. The whole project should be tokenized and not just a batch of beer. Tokens can be distributed into wallets created specifically for Liberland citizens and buyers as well. Distribution for investors should be automatic. After a sale is confirmed, their tokens should just be credited into their wallets. Buyers can fill submission forms via email to claim their coins.

3 months ago

1> I like idea that you can exchange tokens for beer so token backed by beer would be great. Those tokens can also work as 2> What about some kind of sales/marketing/promotion support? For example some kind of reference like Crowdholding works. 3> a) I think whole project would be tokenized. b) Tokens could be given to people who buy beer and makes some reference. c) I would promote Liberbeer under Liberland so people interested in Liberland get interested in Liberbeer and become token users also.

3 months ago

 

What type of asset should be used?

I think it's interesting that you can give stakes on sales. In this case I think that participation would be the most appropriate.

What type of business model do you see? In other words, what would stakeholders do in order to earn this asset?

 

I think the most interesting thing would be a crowfounding platform where the incentives are in the CBR. In addition, one could look for a participation model in which the company that owns the crowfounding platform has the power to provide capital on the projects that are exposed in it.

Shall each batch of beer (1000 liters) or project as a whole be tokenized? How to distribute the tokens? What distribution model would you find most efficient?

 

I think 1000 liters is a lot of beer to generate a token. Maybe making labels with a qr and an app made in blockchain to redeem could be a way to provide participation to consumers. It will have to be on the back cover of the label.

3 months ago

Hello, no need for reward since I won't be answering all questions. But I just wanted to say you should look into the BEOS blockchain for this project. It's a side-chain of EOS created by Dan Larimer's (creator of EOS) father, Stan Larimer. They will have nodes in jurisdictionally friendly locations such as in space and on cruise ships in international waters so you can choose where you want your transaction settled overcoming the regulatory restrictions of sales. I even suggested they set up a node in Liberland, and Stan Larimer responded it wouldn't be out of the question. You should get in contact with him. Here was the link from Bitcointalk: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5128230.msg50816847#msg50... Best, Steve

3 months ago

De Gem guru

Cryptocurrency enthusiast, avid reader, rapper and SDG advocate.

This will be very helpful for the project.

3 months ago

It's interesting to have to Liberbeer project which is truly interesting and new as a product. To tokenized it would be great but need to expand rather to only the Liberland community. 

3 months ago

Rapheal Ngene expert

since the beer is going to be establishing a token of its own does it mean that companies and business in liberland will have their own respective token and trade with that, i need to know the answer pls.

i also want to ask that if the liberbeer has its own token how will the liber land token now come into play as a means of exchange between citizens.

and also will the beer will expoted or only used locally within the local comminuty.

Good work guys, anticipating the full work.

3 months ago

I took some time thinking about this one. Even if my past contributions have been critical of Liberland and exclusively libertarian politics, I can always get behind craft beer.

I'm not sure what you mean by what kind of asset, but mainly thinking a token (social token? is that a thing? please excuse my naivete). I'm thinking there might be various audiences that could earn the token, like for distributors, retailers, bar/restaurant owners, servers. My main idea described is for consumers.

I'd consider putting a QR code on the underside of bottle caps (to ensure the beer was drank and code not claimed by someone in a market or bartender skimming). When the consumer scans the code it will take them to a liberbeer platform. There they earn tokens. The platform will gather time, location, and other data surrounding the consumption for market research. The consumer can then opt to post on Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, or Untappd to earn even more tokens. It will serve as both p2p marketing and insights about consumer behavior.

The tokens can then be traded on exchanges. I could see this idea further scaling as an offshoot to the craft beer industry as a whole. I'd love to see this happen!

 

3 months ago

BTW I've heard really good things

3 months ago

Two additional thoughts:
I've heard really good things about Croatian farmhouse beers. As in, some of the homebrewers do some really interesting, unconventional things with positive results. If the craft beer market in Europe is anything like the US don't be afraid to go out there and get a bit weird!

I just re-read the question about distributing tokens. You might have a standard ladder, 1-2 tokens for a check in, increasing with the amount of platforms the user shares on. You might also release limited release beers (seasonal, barrel aged, dry hopped) that are worth more tokens overall.

3 months ago

De Gem guru

Cryptocurrency enthusiast, avid reader, rapper and SDG advocate.

I had to read you answer again. Good one.

3 months ago

NARUTO RAPHEAL guru

I am a Mechanical Engineer with expertise in power and Mecha-tronics. An Entrepreneur

this is a very interetsng build up and i will say that it will give a big boost to the economy by attracting more users. I will say that the best form of asserts to the public is shares, it has been used by many companies and it is still used by many company, it is the best way to divide the dividend among investore.

Any one intersted in getting or owning an asserts should buy it, and giving full control over it, if any other means can be added like rewarding very loyal members with it or such will be a very good way to invite more users and grow the economy.

the best way to distribute token is by selling to those who which to use it to purchase the product or such, events like icos, airdrop can also be organise since it has proven to be a very effieicient means in doing this.

I will also say that the token should be made strictly for its purpose and plans about it shoud not be weak but rigid, so that it will not be changed alot.

3 months ago

Ashton Sly new user

What the people want.

Could you be trading cryptos for kegs? And I believe they would have a log in. Kinda like a loyalty program. Buy 5 bottles get the 6 free. Instead be getting a small amount of cryptos for each purchase. Kinda like buy from us and earn crypto while you are at it.

3 months ago

I think that would work very well. It could be distributed like loyalty points on each purchase and be redeemable only for beer. . I think by tokenized it as a good idea I prepare to have a bounty, airdrop or sto to make a proper distribution of it.Original stakeholders may receive said tokens from some sort of Airdrop to create immediate adoption but thereafter all stakeholders and new customers should earn same token via purchasing Liberbeer alcohol and associated promotional products.

Taking feedback & ideas for flavors/recipes & reward any gooD suggestions.

3 months ago

b p expert

I say every buy one token, because it isn't fair to set a standard (like the 1000L you mentioned) isnt fair for the ones who only bought 999L so, I say with every small beer one token.

3 months ago

Oxu Remini guru

I think this should be given as a token to people and businesses depending on consumption in the bar, disco etc. places that will reach to the distribution companies and the end user.

Of course, you should decide what this consumption will be limited to.

If you approach the event differently, you should give this token when you bring the empty bottle.

Long live bottles!

3 months ago

I would like to personally buy the beer .If you have a plan for distribution, you ccoul accomplish it through the Liberland token. I can also imagine a non-fungible token for the supply chain. 

3 months ago

Lily Panter expert

I'm sugar, spice and everything nice

I think you need to establish the Liberbeer in the market and get consumers first before you tokenise the whole project. If you tokenise first, you'll probably lock out a large number of people who would be really interested in this product. 

So basically, the major goal is to secure a competitive position in the market.

On the other hand, tokenizing the whole project might create a new market. It would also answer the question of what stakeholders can do to acquire assets. With tokens, stakeholders simply buy a number of tokens representing the percentage of holding. 

3 months ago

De Gem guru

Cryptocurrency enthusiast, avid reader, rapper and SDG advocate.

This is true. Very true.

3 months ago

I believe everyone loves projects which share profit or revenue so I suggest either one as the go for asset.

People should be will to be part of Liberland or take part in mini Liberland tasks.

Each batch should be tokenise so that, haveing a share will mean owning a share share of the business. To sell tokens, I will recommend an IEO.

3 months ago

Al Wallace guru

Food and cryptocurrency blogger with a diverse interest in investment/ crypto

I think that the idea of attaching a token to this product is great and could offer many opportunities to grow the business and i think you should consider the following poits:

1> Create a gamefied system to join a queue to buy the token. in order to progress up the ranks of the queue people could perfomr advertising tasks on behaf of the project - twtter/facebook/instagram shares and tasks, blog writing. The first 20 people should be given a very lucrative prize to encourgae as much interest as possible. Keep this competition ongoing until you are ready to launch.

2> try an IEO on onof the exchanges, these are very popula now and create a lot of necissary media and increased interest in your token and as the IEO approaches the price f the token will naturally rise.

3> offer a revenus share for people holding above a certain amount, tis will encourage people to hld the token and help to stabalize the price.Maybe give the top 100 holders a case of beer for christmas or something nice like that, something truly unique to your brand.

4> you should also possibly give away tokens to people wh purchase the beer. Maybe a QR code that takes you to a website where you can redeem your token, this will encourage brand loyalty. Doesnt need to be a lot, just enough that it makes it worth while to choose it as your favourite brand.

5> citizens of Liberland should get a discount on the token, that means you have 60000 people who are more likely to be interested. 

I think if you apply these you will help to build both a rbust tokenisation and a good platform from which to sell your product. 

 

Good luck,im a big beer fan so i do hope i get to try it soon!

3 months ago

De Gem guru

Cryptocurrency enthusiast, avid reader, rapper and SDG advocate.

As expected, wonderful answer and a detailed one of course.

3 months ago

Lets brake this down to the basic goals:

- Liberbeer needs to raise funds in order to merge with Krusohor Brewery and produce a substantial amount of craft beer

- there needs to bee a good incentive for token investors

- the rewards have to be sustainable for the company and attractive enough for investors

Some thoughts:

I would not be interested as much holding tokens of beer as holding shares of the company. I would be interested to get some dividends of the company profits more than owning part of the beer. If we think of the crowdfunding mechanism before smart contract, we have mostly some model, where investors get the product discounted or included with the investment and some extra merchandise or so one. But I wonder, who this works out with beer? I don't want a truckload of beer, I would rather like some profits of the company. 

But I see also a usecase for tokenized beer, maybe the stakeholders are resellers/importers and can reserve with an investment a certain amount of the product for a certain advantageous price.

3 months ago

De Gem guru

Cryptocurrency enthusiast, avid reader, rapper and SDG advocate.

Well written Tom.

3 months ago

This is your 4th task and i only could catch the 3rd one. I can see that you have started to produce in your lovely country and this beer idea is very very cool. When someone here about this product he would start to have think in very positive about you. You must use your own coin and sell them in 6 packs cans. 

3 months ago

De Gem guru

Cryptocurrency enthusiast, avid reader, rapper and SDG advocate.

You are the first person to mention a can. I didn't even think about it.

3 months ago

I know about the Liberbeer from the perevious task, i have made some researches about it. I see that this beer is the first original product which comes out from the Liberland and you should be very proud of it. As a member of the Liberland community i feel very happy as well. I think you should use the token system with revenue sharing for sure. That would be the best way for you for now. You can sell 1 bottle of beer for 1 coin or you can call it one pint  just like Brtish people says.

Also you need to find some quick ways to bring the Liberbeer to all over the world. I would like to have one!

3 months ago

De Gem guru

Cryptocurrency enthusiast, avid reader, rapper and SDG advocate.

1 bottle for 1 coin got me thinking. Anyway that gives the coin some serious value at least.

3 months ago

Karen M guru

I like the idea of revenue share. With the TV show Shark Tank, the sharks invest for a percent stake in the company.. You could do the same. Ask for an initial investment, them those investors share in an agreed upon percentage.. Each batch of beer should be tokenized. This allows for more variety of beer & you can track which beer is more popular. You can ask for ideas for flavors/recipes & reward any that you make.

 

3 months ago

Ryan Olesen expert

Have acted as an advisor on multiple blockchain & crypto currency related ICO's!

I think You should stay far away from a securitized token because anyone who wanted said tokens or coins would have to both comply with and pass AML/NYC compliance in order to participate in whatever scheme Liberbeer Breweries comes up with.

Original stakeholders may receive said tokens from some sort of Airdrop to create immediate adoption but thereafter all stakeholders and new cistomers should earn same token via purchasing Liberbeer alcohol and associated promotional products.

I would categorize into small batches using each token via a single beer [1-token], 4-pack [5-tokens], 6-pack [8-tokens], etc.

 

Im

3 months ago

Ejay Dario guru

I'm more experience and know the circulation in this Blockchain Industry.

This project was great for me better to go on a platform that benefits your own maybe have a partnership to any top cryptocoins my opinion only its up to you guys to take it as a chance to growth. May have a staking in every stockholders that holds your token to give them rewards and commission for supporting your token. I think by tokenized it as a good idea I prepare to have a bounty, airdrop or sto to make a proper distribution of it.

3 months ago

jessica ruiz

jessica ruiz

I find it a very interesting project and if I get a small part of the Brewdog success I would already be very satisfied.
As a fan of the beer that I am, I hope it has great extents.
I think that the distribution of beer on a regular basis to the token holders, as a subscription, would be interesting.

3 months ago

With the help of crypto coins, which are qualified in terms of adaptation to the digitalized world, or they can be qualified by you, they may be more rewarding of the most environmentally friendly people. it may sound absurd, but a person who does not respect the environment has no respect for anything. In order for the stakeholders to be healthier, beer consumption should be reduced. otherwise, the operation of this project ends. It would be wiser to identify the project as a whole.

3 months ago

I would be concerned with anything that encourages heavy drinking at least outside of liberland because of potential civil action.  People want to blaime someone if something bad happens.  The future merger agreement would move the headquarters back somewhere else so it would appear to be more affiliate marketing than anything else.  I do like the idea of customers being rebated ownership of a product and I suspect that will happen sooner than later.

3 months ago

Dean Walsh guru

Don't listen to me because of who I am, I'm nobody like everone else.

I don't know the laws but if it was possible to create a loyalty token which didn't get classed as a security then I think that would work very well. It could be distributed like loyalty points on each purchase and be redeemable only for beer. Any sale would therefore be a product pre-sale perhaps and not a security sale. In this case it would be either a case or a bottle of beer per token that would make the most sense I think.

If you require all the KYC process and so on that goes along with being a security then I think you might as well make it an actual security with some kind of revenue share. If people need to go through this KYC hassle it has to be for something more worthwhile than loyalty points I would say. In that case I'm not sure sharing it with end customers would make sense because of the small amounts they would receive, but using it to incentivise the supply chain to sell more of your products may be good as well as obviously selling it to investors.

About the type of digital asset I guess its mostly whatever is easiest to use for the greatest number of people.

3 months ago

Tim Prior guru

Crypto / Blockchain enthusiast and investor.

Sounds interesting.  Here are some thoughts:

*  A beer backed stable-coin.  Always redeemeable for one bottle of beer.  This could possibly be part of a two-coin system, where staking the primary coin over time would yield beer-backed stable-coins (i.e a free beer).  These could be unique to individual batches, making them more tradable.  

*  There are lots of ways you could distribute a token, token-sales, airdrops, etc. but one way that springs out would be on the beer bottles themselves, using a QR code printed on the underside of the cap or something.  Rewarding your customers with a stake in the business, and enocuraging sales at the same tiime.

* A possible utility could be to pay to name a batch of beer.  And/or for facilitating votes upon names submitted by token holders, with winning namers receiving a case as a prize. 

 

3 months ago

Wow. Tim, I wrote the same idea of a QR code under the bottle cap without having read your idea previously. I think this is a scaleable idea, like across the beer industry. Would be cool to earn tokens redeemable for merchandise or other perks. I think the market data retrieved from the check ins would also support the coin value. Someone should build this!

3 months ago

Tim Prior guru

Crypto / Blockchain enthusiast and investor.

Clearly great minds think alike. :D tbh I do have a vague memory of reading about some obscure food manufacturer doing something similar a few years back - but I can't remember who they were.

Agreed though, it's a good idea. If it hasn't been done yet, I have no doubt it will be, sooner or later.

And I hadn't thought of the benefits of the data. But most certainly. There could even be some partnership opportunities there. And/or they could bunny-hop off of a project(s) that have already built potential infrastructure. TE-Food spring to mind...

3 months ago

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