Liberland - Chamber of Commerce

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Hello Community!

 

Our task involves getting your feedback regarding the development of our business model for the Chamber.

 

Liberland strives to be a tax-free government (collecting taxes is a crime coercing individual property rights), but in order to support a new country, some capital is needed. Liberland state is funded by donations or voluntary tax that companies and individuals can choose to pay if they want as well as selling the citizenship, by running various state registers and monetizing the land in the future.

 

Regarding the Chamber, we do need potential revenue models in order to pay role/roles of operational managers that would take care of Chamber content and communicate/support businesses joining our ecosystem. The Chambers might be built as non-profit, or for-profit. We prefer to go for the latter as a natural motivation for all contributors and stakeholders in building the whole business ecosystem.

 

So let's dive into a few ideas of revenues to support operations of the Commerce Chambers:

 

1. As we support cryptocurrency companies, registered businesses would offer a small % of tokens created by the business for the full package of services (from idea phase to selling tokens of the company to public markets). Therefore the Liberland Chamber would be a supportive partner (if the company succeeds their tokens become valuable) in the lifetime of the tokenized projects.

 

2. A monthly subscription fee would give a business access to Liberland citizen support, promotion of the business to our community and opportunities. We would have three packages:

  • Basic package: receive regular newsletter of all companies and projects + passive help. Post once a week news and content via our social media + invitation to Liberland events.

  • Advanced: Basic package + pro-actively sought and recommended business opportunities fitting to your criteria, across all LL Chambers in the future; micro tasks to our community to support your business and network connections; access to Crowdholding to incubate your project/company

  • Gold: Basic and Advanced package + traveling opportunities across the world to Liberland + sponsorship events

 

Here are some questions to ponder:

  • What do you prefer?

  • Out of the ideas do you see it working for a start-up, or established business?

  • How much would you pay for the different options?

  • Do you have other model ideas that could make a sustainable business program?

From your feedback, we will put into an effect a business model for this!


Cheers,

Liberland- Chamber of Commerce





47 COMMENTS 496 VOTES

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mike dmann expert

I am excited about the future of all crypto currency.

Sign me up, I wanna be a citizen. This would be a great start for new business but, might be harder for older businesses to change. I can't put an exact number on what id pay, would have to see agreeable comparisons. I'd introduce a black market of illegal substances.

1 month ago

Vu Huu Hoang expert

As long as a state does not have a solid foundation in the material issue, it cannot develop itself.
Although the voluntary tax system at first glance is welcome, this system is not a plus for your country at the moment!
You cannot achieve your goals by collecting taxes on a voluntary basis to be economically strong.

This is very good and it is also a great way to starters to take their business very far in a short time, i want to ask if members of liberland have free access to these services or they also have to subscribe like every other person. I also would say what is the price range for the different plan. this is a good project and i think it will be the first of its kind.

That's why I haven't found anything to write. Because all my ideas are gathered around the money.

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rainer luxus new user

any coin, is a good coin..

- Difficult Question, but a sponsorship in form of monthly payments sounds fair.. - As an Austrian i love the idea (home of Republic Kugelmugel) - hard to say, i have to meet the condistions first ;) - maybe try to get citizents with diffrent work abilities to create a sustainable inviroment that is self sustaining..

1 month ago

Praveen B new user

This ia a great project with a unique idea. Good luck and keep it up

1 month ago

Anuar Ali senior

This is a good project and i think it will be the first of its kind.

Good luck and keep it up!!!

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1 month ago

Deyner López guru

Crypto enthusiast!!! My opinion matters too!!!!

As i said before in other tasks, Liberland is a great project indeed.

What do i prefer?

As an individual i prefer the BASIC PACKAGE because i assume it will be cheaper than others and, as minimun gives me acces to Liberland citizenship. Posting once a week news and content via my social media + invitation to Liberland events is fine for me, and i assume it will be fine for the crowd in general.

Collecting from cryptocurrency companies​?

Nice idea too. Offering cryptocurrency companies the possibility to register at Liberland in exchange for a small % of tokens created by the business for the full package of services will bring you liquidity in the long run and will allows you to grow up as time passes. 

I think you must stay focused in attracting people first and companies in the second place because, after all Liberland is a virtual nation for all and nations are built by people...then companies will come in by themselves...perhaps you can cushion people monthly fees(lower fees) when time passes and you gain financial assets from companies registering with you, this will attract more and more people to your nations(everyone likes low fees after all)

How much would you pay for the different options?

  • Basic package: $2.50 per month
  • Advanced: $3.50 per month
  • Gold: $5 per month

...but i think you should reconsider this options and allow people to pay an annual fee in each one of membership categories.

As i said before...you have a great project in here...don't let it down!!!! Good luck and keep it up!!!

1 month ago

Ayu Ariska new user

Good job project

1 month ago

De Gem guru

Cryptocurrency enthusiast, avid reader, rapper and SDG advocate.

1. Preference

The basic package is what I prefer for starters. As time goes on, the Liberland state and how it operates will become more understandable. I can then upgrade to higher packages.

2. I believe the ideas will work for a start-up or established business. All serious start-ups push to become successful and with a token attached to their success why would they let such an idea fail? In my honest opinion I think almost all businesses and start-ups will gladly offer a small percentage of tokens to the Liberland Business Chamber because it will go to their advantage in the long run.

With the 2nd option however, a yearly subscription will be of great importance since monthly fees can be annoying, especially to businesses and start-ups that do not have much time on their hands. Monthly reminders to such entities can be a nuisance

3. These are the amounts I would like to pay for the different options

-Basic package: $3 per month (or $30 for a yearly payment - save $6 by paying yearly)

-Advanced package: $4.5 per month (or $48 per year - save $6 by paying yealy)

-Gold: $6 per month (or $60 per year)

4. Liberland  can create a weekly series/tv reality show where all citizens of Liberland state can optionally pay to watch. The charge for this shouldn't be huge as all the money would be going to support Liberland State and its sustainable development fund.

1 month ago

I like the idea, because for every start up money is always neccessary to build it up well. So i say that those ideas are very fantastic and would see that business spring up there. I will also say that options should also be added for start ups not entirely free trade but a means for them to start up without much then fully integrate into the system and join in the full scale of the whole system.

1 month ago

Rapheal Ngene expert

This is very good and it is also a great way to starters to take their business very far in a short time, i want to ask if members of liberland have free access to these services or they also have to subscribe like every other person. I also would say what is the price range for the different plan. this is a good project and i think it will be the first of its kind.

2 months ago

basel qarabash new user

I don't understand how you wanna make tax-free government, taxes are really important for the country unless they are too high and the government is basically stealing, please elaborate if you can why do you want to get rid of taxes

2 months ago

In the non-taxed goverments understanding you should collect assets for development for sure and these ways would work with you in right ways i am sure. I believe that you need both 3 packages, it would depends for the people or for the companies. I believe that all options would work for the community and at the end of the that you didn't mean to collect tax you only provide more good services for the community. What a perfect idea you got.. Congratz to your team.. 

For the payment options i would only recommend cryptocurrency for you, your project has borned at the same time with th cryptocurrency and i think you can with with it perfectly. I am waiting your own coin, i will collect and hodl them because i deeply believe in your great idea and will follow you always. 

When you start this project with your packages i am sure that many more ideas will come out and you will make some good additions as well. For now everything seems easy and simple, more ideas would be complicated right now.

2 months ago

it's very good project but I think it can't be worldwide, cuz many countries don't accept that.

2 months ago

Ahmad Fz guru

Crypto Addicted

It is a kind of B2B platform. How do you make sure that the project will be accepted worldwide. There are many regulation in many countries that should be passed on

2 months ago

Daniel Dunlap new user

Work together, grow together, block chain together

What do I prefer? This isn't as cut and dry of a question as it seems at first. As a registered business, with capital to spend, for a fair price I would always rather pay X amount of tokens and be done with it. As the the business owner I'm going to prefer the monthly subscription fee. This is for a whole host of reasons. The following is just a few of the reasons I believe subscription based services, according to Forbes, is up 800% since 2014. • A smoother flow of revenue • Builds a customer base with brand loyalty • Takes pressure off sales • If you offer short term contracts you are more likely to get people to bite if you create a platform that is user friendly to subscribe and unsubscribe from. Honestly, I think offering BOTH options is a great way to move forward. Where you can pay a one time fee, (with rare surcharges as your business expands) at a substantial upfront cost, or montlhy subscription installments. That way you are able to capture both revenues. This might also give you some line of sight on short term and long term growth and where you need to maximize revenue. In the beginning of your business alot of effort, will be put into attracting customers, monthly subscription fees would pay to grow that base. Hopefully monthly subscribers would turn into hefty one time purchasers(or once annually) and that money could be used towards sustaining long term growth. If the business was succesfull I think that, depending on the platform, and how users interact with it, the difference between subscribers and one-time/annual customers would holisitically guide you to how much effort you should be expending on both revenue streams.

2 months ago

If i could answer with my native language it could take a few pages But for now I cant see profit for investors and users Platon was tried create ideal model of social USSR tried Hitler tried Come on guys lets be realistic and try to make existing world better

2 months ago

I think that the ideal position of a govgovernm is a money manager for public resources. The state wowou hodl a basket of assets. 

2 months ago

Phil Richards new user

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2 months ago

Ofcourse you need capitals for your targets. I think you can run for your coin, you have a real project and it is developing too fast, many people joined you and many more want to join. Also your project is one of the unique project ever and nearly %100 of people would love your idea. You can make capital with selling your coins in some good exchanges. I believe lots of people would invest on your Liberland idea, i would invest and i know some more people who would invest.

For the packages i would say that you should have only one package for now, without making question marks. If you make only one option everyone would join before thinking too much. In future you can release more option but now only one is good in my opinion.

There will be many business and investment in the Liberland soon, i am sure that you will fşnd many more great solutions.. Good luck. I am always here and ready for help, as a Liberland lover and member..(I following you since 2016)

2 months ago

b p expert

Basic package, I dontknow if it would quite work for me as I dont like to pay for my services online.. I dont see any gains on this appart from the trade. I would not as I said be paying for it. Thats the major problem of this idea.

2 months ago

hidaia alassouli new user

Very interesting project that I believe has a lot of merit to its work. Looking forward to following your project

2 months ago

Ejay Dario guru

I'm more experience and know the circulation in this Blockchain Industry.

I want the Gold because it has a good package to have with complete set of awesome package.

Yes because it has good product to introduce and have a good package to give than other who exist.

Maybe a good price because it was a good choice to offer and have alots of benefits to have.

I think you need to have an advertisement or any active actions that can make an investors or a community to pursue themselves to join this wonderful project.

2 months ago

What do you prefer?

 

I think the advance pack seems the most interesting. However, I am not sure if I would discuss it since I think that the benefits associated with it are long-term and I think not tangible on a monthly basis

Out of the ideas do you see it working for a start-up, or established business?

 

I honestly do not see it for the reasons stated above. The advantages that expose ... I can get them in other ways with more established countries ... I think that yes

How much would you pay for the different options?

 

I would not pay for the oppositions that are raised, I do not see the short-term benefit for the one who hires it. it is a bet of the future

Do you have other model ideas that could make a sustainable business program?

 

I think I should thematize the business proposals and mount something specialized that may make sense. I leave you with an idea: To set up an open innovation challenge to improve business around the trade in danube and about possibilities developed by transport. I would seek advice from experts in this field (to those who would make special citizens). It would offer a possibility of investment for the citizens and also make a news event. It would even provide a physical space to maintain it and would try to study tax advantages for all the countries of the danube. It would also pose a space for innovation on different possibilities / innovation technologies on the space occupied by Liberland.

 

2 months ago

It is very innovative idea. I will prefer Advance package, it totally fulfilled my requirements. I can allocate easily 10% of my startup to this plan.

2 months ago

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2 months ago

Both idea's as a whole sound great and have a huge potential to succeed either way, but it has to stick to it's core principals and not be swayed by any manipulation tactics. But I would still like to know the overall cost for each package in option 2 and a more detailed breakdown of it's benefits as that's the main thing most people would want to know. As it stands I think that option 1 would be the better option for any established or start-up, but I also like option 2.

2 months ago

I am finding it hard to make a decision on which option to choose. I usually want value for money so its difficult.I will prefer the basic package.

I can't tell whether it will work or not. But I think the benefits should be more appealing to the investor or subscriber.

I can't put a price to it but I can say they will be pretty expensive.

2 months ago

Dean Walsh guru

Don't listen to me because of who I am, I'm nobody like everone else.

Option 1 would be the most effective for the companies using it, but you are limiting yourself to just start-ups with non-mineable or premined tokens, which isn't that big of a market. Also you may end up with quite a lot of worthless tokens from failed projects unless you are very picky about who you work with. For these reasons I think option 2 would probably be better for you, but I don't see why you can't do both.

I think both options would work better for start-ups, but especially option 1.

I don't really have much of a clue about the value of the options you list, but I think you should definitely try to have one very affodrable option which could appeal to either smaller businesses or businesses which may not get a huge value from promotion to your audience but may just want to be part of what you are doing and maybe network a little. 

Other ideas for generating revenue:

  • Sponsorship of your events
  • Official partner products / services - a company which pays the voluntary tax can use your name and logo etc in marketing, on their website and so on. Kind of like happens for big sporting events.

2 months ago

Im need to answer the question. Im needed token full, cancel u give to me? Haha kidding#

2 months ago

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2 months ago

Alexander Dave new user

1. I prefer the Advanced Package 2. It's a great idea to help generate awareness and support for a new company 3. Basic - $10 - $15/month Advanced - $30 - $40/month Gold assuming you guys provide special discounts on travel costs - $70 - $80/month 4. You're providing business owners with a networking team essentially, so streamlining that to pair them with "networkers" who speak to that businesses target audiences would be very valuable

2 months ago

Although it's a tax free government as stated but in reality was it full tax free? Not really perhaps, it's a good way to promote overseas or big organisation to invest as it would sure lowered the cost but it also need big investment to invest in Liberland as most tax free government offer their product or service or food will be quite high compare to other nations or territory. 

A government is same like a investing company, everyone will definitely be calculating on profits to maintain its capacity of business. This makes it quite even comparison. But the ideology of business in Liberland is something bring done before and it will succeed if really stick to its motto of moderate and tax free. 

Personally to me it would be great to involved on Liberland. 

2 months ago

adam bothamley new user

What do I prefer? While Gold looks awesome because of travel opportunities it is impossible to say without knowing what these are costing me. Also, is it such a good idea to sell the privilege of doing micro tasks for revenue to the Advanced package? You may be denying some hungry talent. The advantage the start-up would have is that building a business from the ground up in a low-regulation place like LL presents ways of doing business and types of businesses that otherwise wouldn't exist. For existing businesses I imagine the revenue freed up from having reducing taxes from something to nothing would be welcomed. I honestly would need the packages outlined with a little more detail to say. I'm not entirely sure I would pay for the benefits of the first package. I would probably pay between 5-20 a month depending on the scale of my theoretical business. Just like the tiered price model, giving tiered time options could be attractive. A lifetime gold membership could offer a lot of money upfront and a loyal citizen for LL while coming at a discount for what would come in that package paid monthly. A week long basic or advanced package at a high price allows someone to access some of the benefits on a per-need basis, not paying a full months cost but getting a quick taste of LL when they want it the most. Also, never underestimate limited time only signup bonuses. I want a LiberLand shaped stuffed animal with my Gold package plz!

2 months ago

jessica ruiz

jessica ruiz

What do you prefer?

In my modest opinion I prefer the second option although with nuances.
You only have to pay if something is received in return and only if the ecosystem or benefits to companies and investors.

Out of the ideas do you see it working for a start-up, or established business?

The market works well but you have to avoid companies or investors who are discouraged from trying to control and manipulate the market.
The keys low costs and simple regulation but focused on avoiding market control.

How much would you pay for the different options?

The payment is proportional to the performance is not a data that can be given without knowing the benefits. If there are great benefits we will all want to contribute for the continuity of the project.

Do you have other model ideas that could make a sustainable business program?

I have nothing more to add at this time.

2 months ago

Al Wallace guru

Food and cryptocurrency blogger with a diverse interest in investment/ crypto

I think i prefer the second option, depending of course on how much you would pay. I also think it will give you a much more reliable and sustained income as opposed to the other option. Investment in Cryptocurrency is risky and you wouldnt want to gamble with your countries future. By all means invest some in the side but i wouldnt want to make it your main source of income. The monthly subscription model has worked well for companies like spotify and netflix and many others and I dont see why it would support you economy if it was priced correctly. Perhaps you could make this scaled based on the size of the business. It would really be fair to charge a shopkeeper the same as a giant tech company for example. so as a % or annual net profit. What about 3/6/8% for the three teirs, this would stil mean that the businesses would have way less outgoings than most companies who pay taxes. 

You could also try a leasehold system on properties, a small payment say every 5 years to lease the land that the property is built on, say $500. this could apply to anyone that owned a propety of anykind - shopkeepers, landlords, business owners. 

You would also need to charge for things like sewerage and waste disposal, water treatment etc so this could also bring additional revenue as the businesses could be owned and ran by liberland as profit making companies, this would in turn generate revenue for you.

What about charging a small fee for tourists, each person arriving in the country for tourism could pay a small fee upon arrival, lets say $25. I dont think this would put people off visiting and would generate some additional income.

Of course there are more standard ways of earning revenue, paid adverts on your website would earn advertising revenue, perhaps a lottery ran weekly where people could buy a ticket and 60% of the earned money goes to the winners and 40% to the Liberland chamber. 

2 months ago

The idea that you have represented is a great way to expand a tax-free system. So I have some ideas that may help you.

  • What do you prefer?

When someone wants to be part of your system they should be given two choices, 1st either pay the above packages with loss monthly price and 2nd they can get a year of free subscription but after that, they will have to play more per package per month. So If any individual or company can not afford to pay at the start and he is willing to pay more in the future by taking advantage of your free trade. They can do the math and can select one of the 2 options they have. It will help them to be part of your project and enjoy the tax-free trade and also It will help you grow a strong and trusty community.

  • Out of the ideas do you see it working for a start-up, or established business?

Your idea will surely work for the established businesses but for a start-up, I think the answer to your first question will help them, in growing as well as being part of your community.

  • How much would you pay for the different options?

For a start-up or small companies, they will always try to find a cheap way to fit in. Either you can fix a rate similar for all or you can make some more category according to the number of employees they have so small companies will have to pay less and big will pay more but you can give something in return to big companies in your packages.

  • Do you have other model ideas that could make a sustainable business program?

I have shared some ideas in other question so they will help but It will also be a good input if you involve the government bodies as well by giving a share that will be very low Because they will make every effort to stop you from being toward success. 

2 months ago

Eva Williams new user

I think its a good idea especially the basic package which allows just one weekly post coupled with an invitation to Liberland events.

2 months ago

Rifki Rizky new user

I think this very good idea because will nice for future on your project

2 months ago

Oxu Remini guru

As long as a state does not have a solid foundation in the material issue, it cannot develop itself.
Although the voluntary tax system at first glance is welcome, this system is not a plus for your country at the moment!
You cannot achieve your goals by collecting taxes on a voluntary basis to be economically strong.

That's why I haven't found anything to write. Because all my ideas are gathered around the money.

2 months ago

Once I applauded at the very progressive Liberland idea and project.
I prefer the advanced option because I think it is not appropriate for an early business start.
Regarding to Pricing for options that are not yet specific,  seems to be inadequate

2 months ago

NARUTO RAPHEAL guru

I am a Mechanical Engineer with expertise in power and Mecha-tronics. An Entrepreneur

I like the idea, because for every start up money is always neccessary to build it up well. So i say that those ideas are very fantastic and would see that business spring up there. I will also say that options should also be added for start ups not entirely free trade but a means for them to start up without much then fully integrate into the system and join in the full scale of the whole system. It is a very good project i am very eager to join in it.

2 months ago

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