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What do you Think of our Chamber of Commerce Business Program?

What do you Think of our Chamber of Commerce Business Program?

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The Free Republic of Liberland is a sovereign state located between Croatia and Serbia on the west bank of the Danube river. The motto of the country is “To Live and Let Live”, following the rules of free trade and free market with absolute minimal State interference into people’s lives and business activities. Historically, this model has brought the highest level of development to societies, as demonstrated in countries like Singapore, Hong Kong, Liechtenstein, Switzerland, Monaco, and others.

 

Liberland as such bring also a lot of business potential and interest from many different industries.

 

Liberland business environment is in its very early phase, open to ideas, creativity and business contribution, and already offering three very concrete ways for outer businesses.  So what is this model? Let's start from A to C.


Becoming a business member offers you tools from our supporting liberland citizens and commerce network. You can check our current members here: https://commerce.ll.land/members/ and more info about the Chamber and the participation will come in the next task.




Move or expand your current business facilities to free trade zone Apatin near Liberland and located in Serbia. You can check out the video which showcases their partnership with Apatin here. And more info on their website: http://www.freezoneapatin.com/




Creating a company under Liberland jurisdiction. Our goal in the future is to establish companies under our jurisdiction with no corporate or individual state tax. You can check out our fact sheet here regarding more.


 

Here are our questions for you:

 

  • What do you think of our current onboarding plan introducing memberships, opportunities for a free trade zone near Liberland and a chance to become a registered company?

  • Is it attractive enough or how would you extend it ?





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Very good and interesting project, I'll still follow you and work with this

2 months ago

hidaia alassouli new user

Very interesting project that I believe has a lot of merit to its work. Looking forward to following your project

2 months ago

***A***  Very exciting to see lots of members right now and you are just started, it is amazing, you will have great community soon. Full of nice and good educated people you will have in Liberland.. As i said my previous post i have been following you since 2016 and one day me and my wife want to live there if possible..

Anyways i wanted to checked the commerce members and I have treid to visite each of their website from your links but as far as i understand you haven't linked yet all websites. (I Suggest you to have more care with your website, because it is one of the most important thing for your project) Anyway i googled them one by one and saw many great and promising projects and campaigns. For example Cryptelo and Wamalax are some great projects and those projects had good ICO sales. Their ideas could be very usefull for the Liberland world. But Safex would be your strongest partner, when i made my researches i saw that the Safex has great market cap with $8,822,886 USD and i saw their value raising everyday.

I also loved the Liberbeer, it has great design with your great flag, When i read that the Libeerbeer is unfiltered, unpasteurised and contains no artificial additives, i loved more about this idea. I also really want to taste it :)

***B***  For the Apatin Zone; It is something very clever to have somewhere very near and the effective for the business and for the all industries. You have done the rightest think to get closed with the right neighbors. As far as i can see they have really nice president. Apatin has large Free Zone and it's geographic position is perfect. With that position you can reach many countries easily. Not just by the sea, you can use the roads and the railroads too, and it would give you many alternatives. And also there is no import/export taxes with some big countries! Wouw! It is also great. In my country we have too high import/export taxes and when i see this my Liberland interest went high in big time!
So i can say that because of the Apatin the things would be better, faster and easier..

***C*** There is no taxing there! What can i say.. I live in Istanbul and as i said we have terrible taxing situation, (for ex: X3 taxes for the foreign cars, 30k euro BMW is 90k in here..) and it make me feel great when i think to moving there.. Also as i cryptocurrency user and trader, its is great to hear that all major cryptocurrencies active in Liberland..

Everything seems perfect, also i am following your procces and it is fascinating, you are having meetings all around the world wit many participation. Everyone accepted your idea and Liberland love getting bigger every new day.. What can i say.. I hope i can be a part of this organization soon..

2 months ago

What do you think of our current onboarding plan introducing memberships, opportunities for a free trade zone near Liberland and a chance to become a registered company?

I think it's an interesting proposal but you have to understand what it means for the company. Although there are many advantages at the tax level, it will be necessary to analyze what potential market is headed ...

I think it's an interesting proposal but you have to understand what it means for the company. Although there are many advantages at the tax level, it would be necessary to analyze what potential market is headed ...
For me, it would be necessary to more tangibly balance the advantages and propose how to work in this sense.

Is it attractive enough or how would you extend it ?

I think that is not enough. What I would suggest are actions that allow working in different sectors and make open innovation challenges to develop certain capabilities. For example, on business models across the Danube (to be able to hire nearby companies and be able to generate models around the proposed spaces) or on sectors that have implementation problems in other countries through regulations such as cryptocurrencies or gambling. At the level of Cripto will direct me to develop value propositions that have development in Asia as EOS or TRON and look for the possibility of gambling

2 months ago

My impression (q #1) is more a feeling about what's missing, rather than what's said above and on the linked websites. What's missing for me is complete transparency from a personal level. Even more specifically my impression of the question "Why Liberland?" appears to be "because personal liberty is important" and "because we can."

In appearances, Liberland's mission is to be a libertarian paradise. Voluntary taxes, limited to no regulation, personal rights and responsibility all appeal to libertarians. From my perspective, this approach is only appealing if I implicitly trust those involved. I feel I can only trust people when they've shown transparency. So therefore my desire to participate in a libertarian society hinges on trust and transparency. What can I say, I'm a cynic and I don't trust people's motives if they haven't laid them on the table.

I write all this because I am sure many entrepreneurs and business owners hold similar feelings. My suggestion to make Liberland as attractive as possible (q #2 ) to businesses is to enhance content disclosing transparency, particularly in response to the question "Why Liberland?" Answer that questions from a personal and relatable perspective. Include why this was important to the founder and current president, why from the perspective of the current head of the chamber, and most importantly from the perspective of businesses already participating.

2 months ago

This sounds brilliant, I am sure there will be some minor issues regarding international laws but these would probably be sorted out very quickly.

2 months ago

It's attractive indeed on what's on offer at Liberland, I means the minimal interference by local government always a thumbs up for investors to built interest in investing

To have a company at Liberland is really a great idea though but not as easy as it thought would be and certainly involved a lot of commitment and sacrifice other than monetary involved.

To compare with other nation like Singapore and Hong Kong are way to early to be said. These nation indulge a lot to make themselves a free trade zone, not overnight as it needs to counter against fraud, theft, scam either in or out of the zone. The sacrifice are indeed great and it will affect the nation and community at large. 

2 months ago

Grace Lo Porto new user

I understand the attraction of a "free" society and country. The problem is that societies such as this sometimes attract businesses and individuals who are a bit...depraved. Or at least focused on sexuality somehow in their business. For example, look at Second Life. People can do anything, be anything in that online "place," but sexual perversions are rampant. If businesses like that get a toehold in Liberland, other sorts of businesses might not feel welcome. Or at least not comfortable establishing themselves there. So. I know you do not want to regulate the types of businesses. But I suggest that you at least require that nobody is harmed by the business (to prevent human trafficking), and perhaps you would want to have two categories of businesses, and two different locations for them, one X-rated, and one safe for families. Personally, I will not be visiting. I'm an American, and I have quite enough freedom here, thanks, even if the healthcare system stinks.

2 months ago

adam bothamley new user

In regards to the onboarding plan introducing memberships, it may be helpful to be more direct about what is attractive about membership. If it is possible for someone to hold their online or tech business in Liberland without having to physically be there and not having to pay taxes of the place they are in, (or if this is absolutely not the case) it might be worth saying plainly and clearly. It seems full of opportunity because of the incredibly stripped down regulation, but I would also like to know more about what infrastructure and culture is immediately available. Are there factories and buildings and offices to rent or will they need to be built? How do the native people feel about this international influx of interest? Does Liberland have an army or defense force and what political unrest is there in the immediate area and domestically? I think my most important question would be how much I do I need to be physically represented in Liberland to have a registered company there? Do I need an office there? Do I need to show up regularly? At all? How does Liberland deal with a business that acts in an unethical way? This is attractive enough and I would consider making people pay or put more in for the privileges of being part of Liberland rather than trying so hard to entice people. Smart business people will see this opportunity for what it is.

2 months ago

excellent place to trade all in one tokens of different industries at one place , btw you written in an excellent way, the website was easy to understand, and congrats to you :)

2 months ago

  • What do you think of our current onboarding plan introducing memberships, opportunities for a free trade zone near Liberland and a chance to become a registered company?
    i think this is great and brilliant work.

    • Is it attractive enough or how would you extend it ?
      ​Very attractive.

2 months ago

  • What do you think of our current onboarding plan introducing memberships, opportunities for a free trade zone near Liberland and a chance to become a registered company?

There are some steps taken by liberland like introducing the memberships, and it shows that they want to expand and move forward. I am in favor of free trade and this should be implemented in the whole world which I know will take some time but we need someone to take some action for the progress of free trade and I hope Liberland will implement it. 

For becoming a registered company with you what will be the benefits for the company and how it will benefit the company and also benefit the free trade that you want to implement?

  • Is it attractive enough or how would you extend it ?

As according to point B."Move or expand your current business facilities to free trade zone Apatin" instead of asking the companies to move to a free trade zone I think the best way will be to spread your vision of free trade and focus on the free trade will be a main course of LIberland. If you achieve an agreement between different countries for free trade you will automatically get the attention of most businesses and they will register with your company. But communication is the best source and now social media is the best way to spread your words.

2 months ago

This sounds brilliant, I am sure there will be some minor issues regarding international laws but these would probably be sorted out very quickly. I would definitely consider having a business registered here. You could extend it by setting up a training site teaching people how it works and what they need to do depending on where they are from

2 months ago

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2 months ago

What do you think of our current onboarding plan introducing memberships, opportunities for a free trade zone near Liberland and a chance to become a registered company? About the onboarding plan, I think it's very attractive and of course with a very nice group of opportunities in case of trading in Liberland this is consistent with the ABC. There are some issues we all can see in advance is about worldwide legal aspects. I found it very attractive concept I would extend it with some legal statements.

2 months ago

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2 months ago

NARUTO RAPHEAL guru

I am a Mechanical Engineer with expertise in power and Mecha-tronics. An Entrepreneur

I like the idea behind this and also the support it is getting from other countries, it means that it has been accepeted by them and tht busines with them would not bring about any form of restriction.

I will like to ask these:

1. what would the physical structure of the free trade zone look like.

2. business being done there will only be based on crypto currency or base on any form of currency between the buyer and the seller.

may be i missed these in the intro but will like to know these.

But nonetheless i will like to participate in the activities there and at least become a piooneer in building the place for the future.

A lovely project aimed towards a great idea.

2 months ago

StartApp!!!!!!

2 months ago

H Q guru

It's nice idea on paper, but I think it will be more difficult to provide it authenticity. If some business is registering there, will they be able to open their physical location there? Second, is it tax haaven and will it bring more bitconnects?

Beside that the plans seems really nice and might attract certain type of investors and businessed. Who doesn't want free trade. But what will be extradition to other countries?

 

 

2 months ago

yosep novia new user

Yossep

I will say any plan to make the world a better place is always the best way to make things happen and to make the world a better place, adding free trade zone near liberland is a very good idea, apart from increasing the interest in persons and companines in liberland it also shows cleary the relationship that it has with nearby countries and also its accepetance into the legal process, this is definetely what it needs for its quick expansion. It is a very attractive idea and will attract investors from all over the world to come settle in a common ground for a common goal. A way to extend it will be to set up support centers in various parts of the world, where persons and companies can get direct interview and help relating to this issues.

2 months ago

This is a very well-thought plan and if executed well, this could be very beneficial for the cryptocurrency community and beyond. Building upon free trade between Apitin and Liberland is something that interests me and after reading and learning more about Liberland I can now see how this could possibly work.

2 months ago

Zbigniew Bień new user

I think that the most important aspect you should focus on right now is the free trade zone. Virtual things can be easily traded on the internet but for physical objects you need a physical place of commerce. This will also allow ordinary people to get acquainted with Liberland. To make it more attractive try to engage with people on social media and Libertarian conventions.

2 months ago

Newbee Gamer

because I am a trusted person and can be a good listener

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2 months ago

TOM STEEL guru

I will say any plan to make the world a better place is always the best way to make things happen and to make the world a better place, adding free trade zone near liberland is a very good idea, apart from increasing the interest in persons and companines in liberland it also shows cleary the relationship that it has with nearby countries and also its accepetance into the legal process, this is definetely what it needs for its quick expansion.

It is a very attractive idea and will attract investors from all over the world to come settle in a common ground for a common goal.

A way to extend it will be to set up support centers in various parts of the world, where persons and companies can get direct interview and help relating to this issues.

2 months ago

Wow cool suport with much company with different skill from energy crypto bir technology and ect

2 months ago

NARUTO RAPHEAL guru

I am a Mechanical Engineer with expertise in power and Mecha-tronics. An Entrepreneur

Can you explain what you wrote...

2 months ago

I feel honestly excited about the opportunity to open a physical business in Serbia. The fifir impression I have is that the facility can be a success, especially if it allows easy access to STO services. 

2 months ago

Francis Byrne new user

I think the onboarding plan is going to be attractive for any companies that want to avoid paying tax. I think as some others here have mentioned, I don't personally condone this behaviour though, since using offshore tax havens ultimately damages society and indirectly harms the lives of many, many people for the benefit of the rich and powerful few. Putting that moral point aside, for the purposes of this task, since I'm sure you've already heard this before from many people and it hasn't influenced you to "do the right thing", my next question would be, what specifically sets you aside from the many other tax havens available around the world for companies and individuals? Many of them have well established histories and this makes them attractive choices for these rich and powerful few, since the history provides a certain sense of security. So if you're coming along and setting up a new option, I think it would take some time for them to trust you before they would pick you over the competition. So is there some other competitive advantage you are offering? Perhaps you could provide some way to counteract the feelings of guilt which I would hope some of these people feel by evading taxes in their own countries? Some kind of moral offset, similar to the carbon offset that airlines now offer to customers to offset the environmental damage they are causing. Then again, it would just be better if everyone simply paid taxes where they live and give back to the society which has bestowed upon them many of the privileges they enjoy.

2 months ago

Fred Boulier new user

Ex consultant in Top French development managing SAD-Roubaix

It's probably enough to attract investors. I'm not fan of this kind of place, looks like another tax paradise for rich people who don't aim to participate to their country redistribution system.

2 months ago

Al Wallace guru

Food and cryptocurrency blogger with a diverse interest in investment/ crypto

I think that the idea of intrducing businesses and opportunites in the Apatin free zone does indeed have merit. this allows businesses and possibly more importantly construction companies a place to start to concentrate their plans. The low taxation and good trade links both with local Hungary, Serbia and also free trade with Russia and the favourable trading agreement with the US creates a solid foundation upon which to start the early construction and to start to lay the legal grounwork for bringing Liberland closer to life. Great access to the Danube with feeds in to Europe for greater trade and tourist access will also help.

In order to make this more attractive and allow for a positive future for Lierland i would focus on offering temptation to companies who are interested in creating vital infrastructure such as housing, roads, railways and ports. Their access to cheap labour, materials should be as cheap as possible and they should be given special legal privelages to ensure they can carry out these vital, basic contructs as effciently and cost effectively as possible. 

Begin to think about what local resources can be harvested to create the beginnings of an export business to attract new business. With the UK about to leave the EU perhaps you could look to attract some of the businesses that may be looking for more favourable trading conditions as a result. There is already talk of some of the car manufacturers looking to move and some of the banking institutions. Provided some baisc infrastructure is in place these kinds of companies could be attracted crating an instant demend for housing, retail and commercial buildings and, surely, more business would follow. 

Creating a central hub for banks to do business for favourable taxes with minimal restrictions in place and the right to set up bank accounts for wealthy customers similar to the current ones in Switzerland could, again, bring wealth to your new micronation and surely the desire to build by many companies would follow.

Attract Tourists, althogh it might be hard in the beginning whilst there isnt much there if you the weather is favourable during the summer months if you could create facilities to attract tourism then money would follow. Many may even decide that they like it so much they want to stay and thus your population would b helped.

2 months ago

Lily Panter expert

I'm sugar, spice and everything nice

Sounds too 'utopia ambitious'. If you intend to have public utilities companies tax-free in exchange for keeping the price of their services or commodities low then I'm definitely onboard.

2 months ago

b p expert

is this tax evasion with extra steps?
I don't feel very attracted to any of these ideas, not that I don't like freedom and all its just that someone will always control this freedom? and who? you? I don't like the idea
But to answer your question, you could try and use social media to extend your influence

2 months ago

Agnel Vishal new user

The plans look good. But is it completely digital? Maybe you should start something similar to e-Residency of Estonia?

2 months ago

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2 months ago

Oxu Remini guru

I have always thought that the existence of free trade zones is a necessary tool for the economy.
Developing countries; The purpose of the establishment of free zones is to make more effective use of international trade and investment opportunities and to create additional employment areas.
What I expect from my free trade zones are,

  • The manufacturer-tenant and the investor may be granted periodical activity licenses.
  • If the products produced in these regions will be exported, the amount of income tax may be reduced or not taken at all.
  • No fees or taxes may be charged.
  • Certain exemptions may be provided for the exports of investors in these regions to other countries.
  • No customs duties
  • Special incentives can be provided for these regions once a year.
  • The most important is the equal application of these rules to all domestic or foreign investors.
  • In these regions, reduced bureaucratic procedures and dynamic business management should be implemented during the application and activity.
  • Free zones, especially export-oriented manufacturing companies to provide raw materials, world prices and conditions to provide uninterrupted supply opportunities
  • Legal and administrative regulations should be applied in part.


Thus, a suitable ground is created to enable foreign capital and technologies to be brought into the country.

2 months ago

Dean Walsh guru

Don't listen to me because of who I am, I'm nobody like everone else.

I think it is a very good idea to have different levels of involvement for business to on-board them through a staged process without too much commitment at the start. I would like to know more about the "tools from our supporting liberland citizens and commerce network" and what they are.

Everybody knows that multinational corprations often establish offices or headquarters in low tax jurisdictions as a way to legally avoid tax in the places where in truth the actual work is being done and revenue generated. This puts small businesses at a massive disadvantage. If a small coffee shop owned by a local opens on the same high street as a Starbucks they cannot compete and end up failing, not because Starbucks is better or because the local residents prefer Starbucks, but because they have to pay more tax than that outlet of Starbucks does and are therefore at a big financial disadvantage. What I would really like to see is some way for small business owners to do exactly the same as what corporations legally do and therefore to be able to compete on a level playing field with them! This could be done through a business registration system which includes a package offering a space in some kind of shared office workspace, perhaps alongside a legal advice service to help small businesses to do this in a legally compliant manner.

2 months ago

Nuno Caeiro expert

I’m software developer/team leader for 15+ years

1. Very interesting business model which empower community engagement. Free taxes can leave space for innovation, partnership and use of resources for growing businesses, otherwise only possible to big corporations.

2. I think it’s quite attractive, specially for small and disruptive companies/businesses. Not sure how business relationships fit between Liberians and outside world  

2 months ago

Yes, there is a chance of getting your company registered. Membership will help in the growth of the company . Certain benefits should be given to members. If members rise company will rise.

2 months ago

     I love the chamber of commerce idea.  There are some types of business or trusts that could be done in a cookie cutter sort of way.  Owning your own bank, setting up an investment company.  It's a nice first step for certain types of buisnbus.

2 months ago

Ejay Dario guru

I'm more experience and know the circulation in this Blockchain Industry.

What do you think of our current onboarding plan introducing memberships, opportunities for a free trade zone near Liberland and a chance to become a registered company?

Answer: I think it was great onboarding plan is quite interesting Good job for this project it has a future in commerce business.

Is it attractive enough or how would you extend it ?

Answer: Definitelly Yes, Maybe I'll extend it by making an event or use social media to many people persuade to become a member

2 months ago

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2 months ago

jessica ruiz

jessica ruiz

What do you think about our current incorporation plan when presenting memberships, opportunities for a free trade area near Liberland and the opportunity to become a registered company? I find it interesting, although I do not see how it differs from a current free zone. The costs are lower but you can trade with the rest of the world? Is it attractive enough or how would you extend it? If I find it attractive enough, I would like to see it implemented to give a deeper opinion.

2 months ago

1. I believe most countries have free zones. My country has an agency called Free Zones Board. i don't know how that of Liberland is going to be different because what we have now doesn't look anything like free to me. If successful, I will be elated. My worry has to do with the beneficiaries of this idea. Will the companies be regulated in a way that they pass on the benefits to the customers or consumers? If yes I believe everyone wins, if not, some people, probably citizens will be at a disadvantage. I am 100% for thethe idea.

 

2. I believe its far more attractive that what we have now so like it. For now, I suggest you focus on specific industries which will propel the growth of Liberland.

2 months ago

Ryan Olesen expert

Have acted as an advisor on multiple blockchain & crypto currency related ICO's!

I think its always good to have another choice to form an offshore entity, especially on the European side of the globe. I would structure it allot like T&C but having upmost legal and financial protections like Lichtenstein would be most favorable. Not knowing what kind of global banking or financial institutions are located within or plan to be domiciled within makes it hard to give my 100% thumbs up, but if all of these factors were covered and addressed positively, my group would take a serious look at registering multiple new and long standing multinational corporate entities within the jurisdiction of Liberland.

2 months ago